Again, so, some people claim otherwise. It's useful to have words in which to express disagreement about that.Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:23 pmYou are saying the same shit in different words.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:16 pm The purpose is that some phenomena only occur in brains, and some people claim that those phenomena occur elsewhere (only, or too).
Yes. some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations.
Like the phenomenon of "life". It only occurs in this universe.
So what?
Is morality objective or subjective?
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What is the otherwise claim to "Some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations." ?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm Again, so, some people claim otherwise. It's useful to have words in which to express disagreement about that.
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Can you stop trolling?Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pmWhat is the otherwise claim to "Some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations." ?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm Again, so, some people claim otherwise. It's useful to have words in which to express disagreement about that.
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Not trolling.
I am still unclear about the point of your point. Given that the principle is a clear truism.
Some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations.
SO WHAT?
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The problem is the undecidability of distinctions.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:29 pm Then what's the problem?
What's the topic of the thread?
Is the objective/subjective distinction objective or subjective?
Is it Indexical or non-indexical.
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Then how did you decide to use the word "undecidable" rather than "decidable"? (As well as the words "The" "problem," "is" etc.?)Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:31 pmThe problem is the undecidability of distinctions.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:29 pm Then what's the problem?
What's the topic of the thread?
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Trivially. I didn't know HOW to decide, therefore I used "undecidable".Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:33 pm Then how did you decide to use the word "undecidable" rather than "decidable"? (As well as the words "The" "problem," "is" etc.?)
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Huh? So you mean you just went with one on a whim?Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:36 pmTrivially. I didn't know HOW to decide, therefore I used "undecidable".Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:33 pm Then how did you decide to use the word "undecidable" rather than "decidable"? (As well as the words "The" "problem," "is" etc.?)
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It's not a whim.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:38 pm Huh? So you mean you just went with one on a whim?
I couldn't decide! So I said "undecidable"
If you think it's decidable - tell me how.
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That was a decision. If you choose to not decide, you still have made a choice.Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:40 pmIt's not a whim.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:38 pm Huh? So you mean you just went with one on a whim?
I couldn't decide! So I said "undecidable"
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A choice is not a decision.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:42 pm That was a decision. If you choose to not decide, you still have made a choice.
Decisions require information.
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Is that a distinction you've decided?Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:46 pmA choice is not a decision.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:42 pm That was a decision. If you choose to not decide, you still have made a choice.
Decisions require information.
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No. It's the default position.
Everything is distinct from everything else, right?
Sameness is a decision.
Difference is not.
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