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Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:05 pm Ten Week Email Liberation Course at only $9.99 a week

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:32 pm female disciples especially selected for the beauty of their vulvas

promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:26 pm how awesome would it be if u could just inspect a girl's vulva and then take her as your disciple if u wanted?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:48 pm It can be nice to think of sitting in person and having a talk with the idealized Jesus that is portrayed in Christianity, sharing perspectives of love, kindness, and understanding with him, as well as hearing about his own disappointment (even irritation) at what Christianity has morphed into, and how so many of his followers are on a completely different track in his name.

But, actually having that in-person talk with Jesus might reveal a man who -- although his divine light was shining bright -- was a zealot, enraptured with his own beliefs... a product of his time. And the entire story surrounding and glorifying him was pieced together for guidance and inspiration for others, much as other stories have been created about inspiring people throughout the ages.

The fact that a resulting religion and Bible was assembled and proliferated to direct people in certain ways with archaic ideas and outlandish claims, while claiming it is all of this God, is more demonstrative of OTHER influences being played out through and upon humankind. Anyone who wants to see beyond it can see how it has been used.

There are, and have been, countless people who have reflected the brightness of divine light in many extraordinary ways throughout human time and humankind. It is absolutely ridiculous to think such divine light is limited to only certain theist ideas. One need NOT be theist at all! Any theist ideas that claim to be the truest divine path are false, manipulated paths for their own purposes, and should be challenged and questioned vigorously by all, especially by their own followers. Such limited divine notions don't make sense. And the intoxication of them is very powerful and dangerous for all of humankind.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:42 pm Christ was arguably the most compassionate human being who ever existed. I don't believe he was the God who created this universe, though. Christ would never have created a universe like this.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:20 pm "calm down now"

between u and me, uh... she mighta been fifteen but when u get that little r-red beaver right up there in fronnaya i don't think it's crazy at all

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:20 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:42 pm Christ was arguably the most compassionate human being who ever existed. I don't believe he was the God who created this universe, though. Christ would never have created a universe like this.

What about those who do volunteer work for charities? They give their time freely to help people they don't even know, in a practical way. Jesus was just some sort of preacher, from what I understand. Why do you credit him with extraordinary compassion?

promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:38 pm I know right. What are u calling a 'compassionate' act? If you eliminate all the miracle myths from the report of J's life, all u have left is a desert guru who's too broke to give anyone anything. And a few nice encouraging words like 'love yourself, your neighbor and the father and u will shirley live forever' hardly counts as a compassionate act, Gary. If u wanna help somebody u gotta buy em a cheeseburger or at least let them crash on your couch. U can't just wish someone well and be considered a legitimate philanthropist.

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:20 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:42 pm Christ was arguably the most compassionate human being who ever existed. I don't believe he was the God who created this universe, though. Christ would never have created a universe like this.

What about those who do volunteer work for charities? They give their time freely to help people they don't even know, in a practical way. Jesus was just some sort of preacher, from what I understand. Why do you credit him with extraordinary compassion?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:48 pm
Consider Major Barbara.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:35 pm
It is tempting to credit Jesus with a general change in attitude on the part of peoples of the Middle East toward each other. I wish I knew more about the history of the Far East and people's temperaments toward each other there around the time of Christ. But I don't. I suppose Jesus is not the first example of compassion toward others. In fact, according to the Bible there were those who helped Jesus when he needed it too. So it is also tempting to think that not everyone at the time was a bloodthirsty brute out to kill anyone and everyone who got in the way.