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Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:54 pm
by Sculptor
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:55 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:44 am
In October (when you think this all began) you might have had an iota of credibility...
You're female. No doubt about it. Your manner betrays you. You can't seem to separate ideas from personalities, or deliver yourself from the merely
ad hominem. And since you're not really in possession of the facts you need, you revert to personal insults, in the mistaken impression you can get some kind of "win" that way.
Have it. Your "win" isn't worth having.
You're an idiot, clearly.
Congratuations for adding misogyny to your crimes.
You are not exacly a great advert for the Theism you peddle.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:06 pm
by Immanuel Can
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:54 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:55 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:44 am
In October (when you think this all began) you might have had an iota of credibility...
You're female. No doubt about it. Your manner betrays you. You can't seem to separate ideas from personalities, or deliver yourself from the merely
ad hominem. And since you're not really in possession of the facts you need, you revert to personal insults, in the mistaken impression you can get some kind of "win" that way.
Have it. Your "win" isn't worth having.
You're an idiot, clearly.
You're female, clearly. You think spite and character assassination amount to some sort of intellectual refutation. That's something little girls do, but big girls get over. Men never bother.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:33 pm
by Sculptor
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:06 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:54 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:55 pm
You're female. No doubt about it. Your manner betrays you. You can't seem to separate ideas from personalities, or deliver yourself from the merely
ad hominem. And since you're not really in possession of the facts you need, you revert to personal insults, in the mistaken impression you can get some kind of "win" that way.
Have it. Your "win" isn't worth having.
You're an idiot, clearly.
You're female, clearly. You think spite and character assassination amount to some sort of intellectual refutation. That's something little girls do, but big girls get over. Men never bother.
Doubling down on misogyny.
Don't let your little wank fanatsy "vegetarian taxidermy" see you make comments like that! She'll be terminating her phone-sex sessions with you.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:29 pm
by Immanuel Can
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:33 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:06 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:54 pm
You're an idiot, clearly.
You're female, clearly. You think spite and character assassination amount to some sort of intellectual refutation. That's something little girls do, but big girls get over. Men never bother.
Doubling down on misogyny.
No, women are great. It's you that has the worst features of their nature. So I'm guilty only of missculpterettery.

Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:53 am
by Gary Childress
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:16 pm
Maybe. But if you're right, the Palestinians are doomed by their own venom. .
This is the spewng of a dull and evil mind.
12000 women and children are just snakes
He's not evil. Just profoundly misguided. And showing him to the correct course doesn't sway him because he's afraid that if he let's go of the Bible, he'll go to hell. It's the ultimate conundrum of followers of the Abrahamic religions. There's literally nothing you can say or do to bring the fanatical ones into the 21st Century. It's a tragic situation.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:05 am
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:53 am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:16 pm
Maybe. But if you're right, the Palestinians are doomed by their own venom. .
This is the spewng of a dull and evil mind.
12000 women and children are just snakes
He's not evil. Just profoundly misguided. And showing him to the correct course doesn't sway him because he's afraid that if he let's go of the Bible, he'll go to hell. It's the ultimate conundrum of followers of the Abrahamic religions. There's literally nothing you can say or do to bring the fanatical ones into the 21st Century. It's a tragic situation.
Great insight here "gary childress".
I would just add, however, that all believers, no matter absolutely what they are 'believing in', are also so-called 'fanatical', and thus are not able to be brought back to actual Reality, nor are even able to have the actual Truth, proof, and Reality shown 'to them', while they are 'locked up' within that 'state of belief'.
Now, of course, and remember that in the days when this is being written all of you adult human beings 'believe in' some things, you adult human beings can have the actual Truth, Reality, and Proof, of things, shown and revealed to you, however, only as long as 'It' does not in anyway contradict, conflict, nor is inconsistent with 'your belief'.
If absolutely anything conflicts, is inconsistent, or contradicts with 'the belief' that one is having or is holding onto, then 'that thing' can never be actual even 'heard', 'seen', comprehended, nor understood.
As, once again, just the writings in this forum proofs this True, absolutely and irrefutably.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:05 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:53 am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
This is the spewng of a dull and evil mind.
12000 women and children are just snakes
He's not evil. Just profoundly misguided. And showing him to the correct course doesn't sway him because he's afraid that if he let's go of the Bible, he'll go to hell. It's the ultimate conundrum of followers of the Abrahamic religions. There's literally nothing you can say or do to bring the fanatical ones into the 21st Century. It's a tragic situation.
Great insight here "gary childress".
I would just add, however, that all believers, no matter absolutely what they are 'believing in', are also so-called 'fanatical', and thus are not able to be brought back to actual Reality, nor are even able to have the actual Truth, proof, and Reality shown 'to them', while they are 'locked up' within that 'state of belief'.
Now, of course, and remember that in the days when this is being written all of you adult human beings 'believe in' some things, you adult human beings can have the actual Truth, Reality, and Proof, of things, shown and revealed to you, however, only as long as 'It' does not in anyway contradict, conflict, nor is inconsistent with 'your belief'.
If absolutely anything conflicts, is inconsistent, or contradicts with 'the belief' that one is having or is holding onto, then 'that thing' can never be actual even 'heard', 'seen', comprehended, nor understood.
As, once again, just the writings in this forum proofs this True, absolutely and irrefutably.
I consider myself agnostic. It seems like the only true position I can have concerning things like whether or not there is a "god" or what happens to me after I die. However, if you know something I don't concerning such things, I'll be glad to listen and hear your evidence.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:20 am
by Sculptor
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:53 am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:16 pm
Maybe. But if you're right, the Palestinians are doomed by their own venom. .
This is the spewng of a dull and evil mind.
12000 women and children are just snakes
He's not evil. Just profoundly misguided. And showing him to the correct course doesn't sway him because he's afraid that if he let's go of the Bible, he'll go to hell. It's the ultimate conundrum of followers of the Abrahamic religions. There's literally nothing you can say or do to bring the fanatical ones into the 21st Century. It's a tragic situation.
Agree. He's taken the licence to commit atrocities to heart.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:12 am
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:05 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:53 am
He's not evil. Just profoundly misguided. And showing him to the correct course doesn't sway him because he's afraid that if he let's go of the Bible, he'll go to hell. It's the ultimate conundrum of followers of the Abrahamic religions. There's literally nothing you can say or do to bring the fanatical ones into the 21st Century. It's a tragic situation.
Great insight here "gary childress".
I would just add, however, that all believers, no matter absolutely what they are 'believing in', are also so-called 'fanatical', and thus are not able to be brought back to actual Reality, nor are even able to have the actual Truth, proof, and Reality shown 'to them', while they are 'locked up' within that 'state of belief'.
Now, of course, and remember that in the days when this is being written all of you adult human beings 'believe in' some things, you adult human beings can have the actual Truth, Reality, and Proof, of things, shown and revealed to you, however, only as long as 'It' does not in anyway contradict, conflict, nor is inconsistent with 'your belief'.
If absolutely anything conflicts, is inconsistent, or contradicts with 'the belief' that one is having or is holding onto, then 'that thing' can never be actual even 'heard', 'seen', comprehended, nor understood.
As, once again, just the writings in this forum proofs this True, absolutely and irrefutably.
I consider myself agnostic.
Which is 'what', exactly?
Is it
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
Or, something else to you?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
It seems like the only true position I can have concerning things like whether or not there is a "god" or what happens to me after I die.
Oh, but there are other true positions you could take, that is; if you wanted to.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
However, if you know something I don't concerning such things, I'll be glad to listen and hear your evidence.
I would first have to be made aware of what some things are, which you do not, yet, know, first, before I could know if I know those things already or not.
By the way I do not have nor use 'evidence'. I much prefer to obtain and have already gained actual 'proof' instead, always.
Also, and furthermore, if you believe there are some things, which cannot be known, then while you are holding onto 'that belief', then by definition you will not listen to any evidence nor even to any thing, which proves otherwise. As I was just pointing out and showing above here.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:57 am
by Gary Childress
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lo ... 866b&ei=19
Well, this is an interesting issue. Does Israel negotiate with Hamas and release some of their Hamas prisoners whom Israel is holding on charges of murder, or do they not? I mean, it's trading the release of innocent civilians for people who have apparently actively participated in violence. However, if they can save the lives of innocent civilian hostages, do they do so?
I'm inclined at this point to say that Israel ought to go through with the trade. I'm inclined to believe that saving the life of an innocent hostage outweighs the tradeoff of letting a potentially violent prisoner back into the community. It also seems like the best way of restoring some semblance of peace between the two parties and might be worth a try, compared to taking a hard line, which might more conceivably end with the horrible death of those hostages.
But maybe there's some angle I'm not seeing. What are others' thoughts?
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:00 am
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:12 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:05 am
Great insight here "gary childress".
I would just add, however, that all believers, no matter absolutely what they are 'believing in', are also so-called 'fanatical', and thus are not able to be brought back to actual Reality, nor are even able to have the actual Truth, proof, and Reality shown 'to them', while they are 'locked up' within that 'state of belief'.
Now, of course, and remember that in the days when this is being written all of you adult human beings 'believe in' some things, you adult human beings can have the actual Truth, Reality, and Proof, of things, shown and revealed to you, however, only as long as 'It' does not in anyway contradict, conflict, nor is inconsistent with 'your belief'.
If absolutely anything conflicts, is inconsistent, or contradicts with 'the belief' that one is having or is holding onto, then 'that thing' can never be actual even 'heard', 'seen', comprehended, nor understood.
As, once again, just the writings in this forum proofs this True, absolutely and irrefutably.
I consider myself agnostic.
Which is 'what', exactly?
Is it
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
Or, something else to you?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
It seems like the only true position I can have concerning things like whether or not there is a "god" or what happens to me after I die.
Oh, but there are other true positions you could take, that is; if you wanted to.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
However, if you know something I don't concerning such things, I'll be glad to listen and hear your evidence.
I would first have to be made aware of what some things are, which you do not, yet, know, first, before I could know if I know those things already or not.
By the way I do not have nor use 'evidence'. I much prefer to obtain and have already gained actual 'proof' instead, always.
Also, and furthermore, if you believe there are some things, which cannot be known, then while you are holding onto 'that belief', then by definition you will not listen to any evidence nor even to any thing, which proves otherwise. As I was just pointing out and showing above here.
Maybe the best place to start is with what are some things you believe concerning the entity that is called "God"? We can see if I agree that those things are known or knowable and you can respond whether you think my responses are valid.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:12 am
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:00 am
Age wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:12 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
I consider myself agnostic.
Which is 'what', exactly?
Is it
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
Or, something else to you?
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
It seems like the only true position I can have concerning things like whether or not there is a "god" or what happens to me after I die.
Oh, but there are other true positions you could take, that is; if you wanted to.
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:24 am
However, if you know something I don't concerning such things, I'll be glad to listen and hear your evidence.
I would first have to be made aware of what some things are, which you do not, yet, know, first, before I could know if I know those things already or not.
By the way I do not have nor use 'evidence'. I much prefer to obtain and have already gained actual 'proof' instead, always.
Also, and furthermore, if you believe there are some things, which cannot be known, then while you are holding onto 'that belief', then by definition you will not listen to any evidence nor even to any thing, which proves otherwise. As I was just pointing out and showing above here.
Maybe the best place to start is with what are some things you believe concerning the entity that is called "God"? We can see if I agree that those things are known or knowable and you can respond whether you think my responses are valid.
Once again, I do not believe anything concerning some supposed entity, which some of you might call God.
However, what the God refers to, to me, is;
In the visible sense, the Universe, Itself. And,
In the invisible sense, the Mind, Itself.
Which then covers claims made about what God does and is, except of course for absurd claims like God is a 'he'. Which absolutely nothing could cover, besides of course Truly irrational and/or illogical delusional thoughts and beliefs.
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:27 pm
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:12 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:00 am
Age wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:12 am
Which is 'what', exactly?
Is it
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
Or, something else to you?
Oh, but there are other true positions you could take, that is; if you wanted to.
I would first have to be made aware of what some things are, which you do not, yet, know, first, before I could know if I know those things already or not.
By the way I do not have nor use 'evidence'. I much prefer to obtain and have already gained actual 'proof' instead, always.
Also, and furthermore, if you believe there are some things, which cannot be known, then while you are holding onto 'that belief', then by definition you will not listen to any evidence nor even to any thing, which proves otherwise. As I was just pointing out and showing above here.
Maybe the best place to start is with what are some things you believe concerning the entity that is called "God"? We can see if I agree that those things are known or knowable and you can respond whether you think my responses are valid.
Once again, I do not believe anything concerning some supposed entity, which some of you might call God.
However, what the God refers to, to me, is;
In the visible sense, the Universe, Itself. And,
In the invisible sense, the Mind, Itself.
Which then covers claims made about what God does and is, except of course for absurd claims like God is a 'he'. Which absolutely nothing could cover, besides of course Truly irrational and/or illogical delusional thoughts and beliefs.
OK. That makes sense, then. So you refer to the universe as "God". Is that correct? If so, I suppose that's as fair as some other definitions of what is "God".
Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:26 pm
by seeds
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:20 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:53 am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
This is the spewng of a dull and evil mind.
12000 women and children are just snakes
He's not evil. Just profoundly misguided. And showing him to the correct course doesn't sway him because he's afraid that if he let's go of the Bible, he'll go to hell. It's the ultimate conundrum of followers of the Abrahamic religions. There's literally nothing you can say or do to bring the fanatical ones into the 21st Century. It's a tragic situation.
Agree. He's taken the licence to commit atrocities to heart.
I'm thinking that IC might enjoy putting his deep and heartfelt Christian values to good use by riding around in Israeli tanks and manning the machine guns in operations such as this...
(Btw, she was found two weeks later - dead.)
IC hears Jesus saying:
"...I will slaughter any and all children who interfere with the "chosen" people's goal of reclaiming their ancient lands and rebuilding the old temple in order to bring back the practice of sacrificing animals to my dad..."

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Re: The USA and Israel
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:41 am
by Sculptor
seeds wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:26 pm
"...I will slaughter any and all children who interfere with the "chosen" people's goal of reclaiming their ancient lands and rebuilding the old temple in order to bring back the practice of sacrificing animals to my dad..."
IC is just horrific