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Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:45 pm**

Oh f*** off.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:47 pm**

Funny story. Thousands of men are missing life-saving prostate screening because they have 'self identified' as wimmin. Oh dear. How tragic.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm**

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:22 pm
accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:13 pm

What's your definiton of a woman then?
I have no idea, I'm not the one saying it's a simple straightforward thing to define.
So that’s your argument then, Trump ought to have answered something like I have no idea?

No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:01 pm**

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:22 pm

I have no idea, I'm not the one saying it's a simple straightforward thing to define.
So that’s your argument then, Trump ought to have answered something like I have no idea?
No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.

Define 'old'. How old are you, little man? At what age do you suggest women kill themselves so as not to offend you with their 'oldness'?

And you just admitted that you don't have a clue what a woman is, so why are you even using the word?

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:27 pm**

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:22 pm

I have no idea, I'm not the one saying it's a simple straightforward thing to define.
So that’s your argument then, Trump ought to have answered something like I have no idea?
No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.

But I am a woman.

And Trump would probably agree if we were to meet up in real-time, maybe hang out awhile drinking coffee at costa.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:28 pm**

My God ace is on fire

right now.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:37 pm**

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:27 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:24 pm

So that’s your argument then, Trump ought to have answered something like I have no idea?
No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.
But I am a woman.

And Trump would probably agree if we were to meet up in real-time, maybe hang out awhile drinking coffee at costa.

Of course he would agree, because he doesn't even believe his own definition, because he didn't really think about it before he spoke. You don't believe it either, despite wasting so many words arguing for it. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:40 pm**

Maybe we’re all living in a simulation and there’s really no such thing as gender or sexual orientation.

Maybe we’re all just fake machine like gender neutral robots, made to look convincingly like male and female characters just to cause confusion, misery and pain and anxiety and grief and gross misunderstandings. So that the creator of the simulation can feed off of the energy that flares up out of the inevitable melee of confusion.

OR, Maybe we’re all negative energy vampires locked into an eternal bad energy feeding frenzy. .

yummy yummy!

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:41 pm**

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:37 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:27 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm

No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.
But I am a woman.

And Trump would probably agree if we were to meet up in real-time, maybe hang out awhile drinking coffee at costa.
Of course he would agree, because he doesn't even believe his own definition, because he didn't really think about it before he spoke. You don't believe it either, despite wasting so many words arguing for it. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I believe

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:45 pm**

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:37 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:27 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm

No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.
But I am a woman.

And Trump would probably agree if we were to meet up in real-time, maybe hang out awhile drinking coffee at costa.
Of course he would agree, because he doesn't even believe his own definition, because he didn't really think about it before he spoke. You don't believe it either, despite wasting so many words arguing for it. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I’m not the one who doesn’t believe. You are, I’m just defending my belief. If you don’t believe, then why you arguing for something you don’t believe in.

It takes two to tango you dumb little boy, manchild, cry baby. Throw your toys out of the pram all you want, you are just jealous that Trump is filthy rich and your not, and that Trumps got a hot woman Melania who loves him, and you’ve not.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:03 pm**

What a bizarre response.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:16 pm**

Different strokes for different folks.

Buckle up.

It’s an un fair ground of swings and roundabouts and all things that go up and down.

This universe owes you NOTHING

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:00 am**

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:24 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:22 pm

I have no idea, I'm not the one saying it's a simple straightforward thing to define.
So that’s your argument then, Trump ought to have answered something like I have no idea?
No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.

I don't recall seeing anything in the Trump interview where he says old women aren't really women or anything to suggest that line of thinking.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:02 am**

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:37 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:27 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:49 pm

No, Trump should have probably answered with something that doesn't say Old women like Fairy aren't really women.
But I am a woman.

And Trump would probably agree if we were to meet up in real-time, maybe hang out awhile drinking coffee at costa.
Of course he would agree, because he doesn't even believe his own definition, because he didn't really think about it before he spoke. You don't believe it either, despite wasting so many words arguing for it. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Why would he even need to think about it? The word woman is enough. It's self-defining. Normal people know what a woman is without being spoon-fed a definition. I bet when you are scouring porn sites or picking up prostitutes you are well aware of what a woman is. Would you be ok if one pulled out a giant penis (or even a small one) and said 'It's ok darling, I 'identify as a woman', you can use my butt-hole'?
I can't believe you are let out of your cage long enough to moderate over at ILP. No wonder it's infested with prognazis and rabid misogynists.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:06 am**

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:03 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 3:42 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 3:28 pm

Fair enough. You seemed to have some issue with Trump's answer to what a "woman" is. If you don't have an issue with it, then I don't either.
Ihave the same issue with it that FJ does, it's slovenly, moronic and inadequate. I already explained that rigid definitions are usually impossible to get right and I definitely mentioned that this is something I would expect anybody with an introductory level of education in philosophy to readily understand having addressed questions to do with other things that cannot be adequately definied such as knowledge and meanings.

How is this difficult to get? I understand the likes of DAM and Veggie and Henry and Immanuel Can having difficulty with this sort of thing because none of them has the relevant education. But you do. This should be super easy for you, if not for them.
Here's a video of the relevant interview with Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mtcwIs_KJ0&t=2s

As far as I can tell, he's not saying anything radically controversial. He says women have equality, they have intelligence (sometimes more so than some men), and "under certain circumstances" can have a baby? I mean, if someone in the audience asked you what a woman was (or, for that matter, whether milk comes from cows) what would have been your answer? Why is his answer "moronic" or "inadequate"? What's moronic or inadequate about it. Or what's a better definition of what a woman is?

It's rambling pile of bullshit spouted by a moron. I got bored and stopped when he said "it's about a 94% issue".... what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

This guy, and DAM and Veggie are trying to lay exclusive claim to this. None of you pissants is saying that people who hold other views to yours are equally valid. If you want to hold that your definition is exclusively true, then it has to be better than this utter garbage you idiots are throwing around.

That should be obvious.

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