Philosophy Now Forum

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:55 pm
Sure I did. Action determines the meaning and the plan, and I acted with a transmission. Responding here in this realm is an intellectual, dualistic activity blending into situation, as opposed to random emotion. Quite necessary, btw. "You're so mean," was a funny, meant to be funny. It's what is said to puppies when they're playing vicious, and maybe to rowdy children rough on the furniture especially mamma's chair, a gentle funny that I think reduces projected significance of attempts to create fictional reality involving me, and reduces the significance of the projection back into a more fitting and truthful perspective that forgives. Savvy? Meaning, what do you savvy?

You were responding to some words, and you reacted, not acted. There is no one around to know ACTION - there are only reactions known.
Nothing is known not until there is a demand for knowledge, and knowledge can only exist as memory, as dead stuff.

So there is no one to plan anything, except as a concept known from memory that does not exist. Because where / what is memory but a thought.

Savvy!

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:55 pm "You're so mean," was a funny, meant to be funny. It's what is said to puppies when they're playing vicious, and maybe to rowdy children rough on the furniture especially mamma's chair, a gentle funny that I think reduces projected significance of attempts to create fictional reality involving me, and reduces the significance of the projection back into a more fitting and truthful perspective that forgives. Savvy? Meaning, what do you savvy?

Sorry Walker, but puppies do not hear they are being funny, nor do they hear they are being mean, nor do they hear they are being vicious.

What the heck does a puppy have to do with all this? we're not talking to puppies.

Also, rowdy children being rough on the furniture especially mamma's chair... does not mean the child is being mean, it's just children being themselves in the moment without intent. No forgiveness is necessary ..the child and puppy is just doing what children and puppies do.

Is a piece of furniture more important that a child doing what most children do unintentionally anyway, especially younger children ?
That's what most people do right, they seem to value the ''chair'' more than the spontaneous activity of the child.

So why kick a dog just for doing what dogs do. ?


Mean can also be interpreted as intent to do something. It is a learned behaviour. Art the creation of the physical world, is unintentionally natural. The nature of the human being however, is to know intentional, it is the rider/nature of the will.

Will I / Won't I .. is to know intent.

Neural imaging has shown that the brain has ''decided'' what we're going to do before we make a conscious choice.

Savvy!

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:41 pm

A place without rules cannot be a Buddhist Sangha or Christian congregation, so seek no refuge of apologies or forgiveness here for your sorry when condemning reality that does not measure up to preconceived specifications.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:51 pm
A place without rules cannot be a Buddhist Sangha or Christian congregation, so seek no refuge of apologies or forgiveness here for your sorry when condemning reality that does not measure up to preconceived specifications.

In the dream of separation there are man made rules. Rules belong to the realm of knowledge.

In natural, the unknowing reality, there are no man made artificial rules because what is natural is indifferent to what you think about it.

Savvy!

Why kick a dog for doing what dogs do. Heck you even called Harbal a dog. Me thinks you are caught up in the trap of misidentification.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:51 pm so seek no refuge of apologies or forgiveness here for your sorry when condemning reality that does not measure up to preconceived specifications.

Who would condemn reality? While it may seem that we are free to do as we intend, we are never free to ''intend what we intend''

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:40 pm All you have said IC..

I am told by you not to talk to you. Then you wish to ask a question?

ART is unintentionally natural.

NATURE is artificial, it's intentional.


Thou Art meaning: You are.

You are either intentional or unintentional. The nature of the mind is to change it's mind, and to say, I did not intend no harm with what I said. Or, I did not mean no harm with what I said.

Any word spoken in realtime is known only to the knower who spoke it. That word cannot be known to another, unless another was also present to hear it. The other can then repeat those words they heard as a truth, that they cannot lie, because they bore witness to it.

So it's not like the other who is repeating the words, is intending to cause harm to the one who originally spoke them. They are only speaking a truth, and sometimes, the truth does not want to be heard by the one who spoke it, especially when it is repeated back to them by another. It's an inconvenient truth. So there is no preconceived intent made by the one repeating what it has heard, it's simply an echoed reactive expression of truth.

There is no ''before'' NOW known. There is no past. There is only ''after'' known, when there is the demand for knowing, which is formed as knowledge, which is stored to memory, which has passed away.

We can only know dead stuff. Fairy stories. I see dead people, zombies dressed as humans.

Welcome to the zombie jamboree.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:06 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:40 pm All you have said IC..

I am told by you not to talk to you. Then you wish to ask a question?

I can tell you to not talk to me. But I cannot force you to not talk to me.

You are free to talk or not talk. I'm simply responding to something you have said. I don't give a flying banana if you reply or not.

You are free to do whatever you want, and I will not care either way, quite frankly.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:12 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:06 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:40 pm All you have said IC..

I am told by you not to talk to you. Then you wish to ask a question?

I can tell you to not talk to me.

Yes, you can. And you did. And I am honouring your "telling." Please be equally committed to your own demand.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:33 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:12 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:06 pm
I am told by you not to talk to you. Then you wish to ask a question?

I can tell you to not talk to me.

Yes, you can. And you did. And I am honouring your "telling." Please be equally committed to your own demand.

I'm honoured by your commitment to not talk to me.


"If you dance, I'll dance
And if you don't, I'll dance anyway"

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:33 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:12 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:06 pm
I am told by you not to talk to you. Then you wish to ask a question?

I can tell you to not talk to me.

Yes, you can. And you did. And I am honouring your "telling." Please be equally committed to your own demand.

Your not that special. I won't miss you.

I only miss special people. People that actually mean something to me. You are meaningless to me.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:35 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:33 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:12 pm

I can tell you to not talk to me.

Yes, you can. And you did. And I am honouring your "telling." Please be equally committed to your own demand.

I'm honoured by your commitment to not talk to me.


"If you dance, I'll dance
And if you don't, I'll dance anyway"

What a hypocrite. Had a go at me for daring to mention the name of someone I had PUT ON IGNORE then you go and ask IC a direct question after telling him not to speak to you!

And no one wants to know about your and Harbal's sex life.

accelafine wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:40 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:35 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:33 pm Yes, you can. And you did. And I am honouring your "telling." Please be equally committed to your own demand.

I'm honoured by your commitment to not talk to me.


"If you dance, I'll dance
And if you don't, I'll dance anyway"

What a hypocrite. Had a go at me for daring to mention the name of someone I had PUT ON IGNORE then you go and ask IC a direct question after telling him not to speak to you!

And no one wants to know about your and Harbal's sex life.

I haven’t put IC on ignore.

I told him not to talk to me. I didn’t tell him I wasn’t going to talk to him. Unlike you, I don’t ignore people, I’m just not that ignorant.

And yes, all the deleted things you wrote regarding what you said I said about Harbal is exactly why I love him, because he’s real not fake. He hates lying and so do I

Why did you delete parts of your original message …. We’re you ashamed of yourself for saying them.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:52 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:40 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:35 pm

I'm honoured by your commitment to not talk to me.


"If you dance, I'll dance
And if you don't, I'll dance anyway"

What a hypocrite. Had a go at me for daring to mention the name of someone I had PUT ON IGNORE then you go and ask IC a direct question after telling him not to speak to you!

And no one wants to know about your and Harbal's sex life.

I haven’t put IC on ignore.

I told him not to talk to me. I didn’t tell him I wasn’t going to talk to him. Unlike you, I don’t ignore people, I’m just not that ignorant.

And yes, all the deleted things you wrote regarding what you said I said about Harbal is exactly why I love him, because he’s real not fake. He hates lying and so do I

Why did you delete parts of your original message …. We’re you ashamed of yourself for saying them.

Exactly. You are a hypocrite. You tell someone not to speak to you and then ask them a question. Why would putting someone on ignore make them 'ignorant'? Do you know what ignorant means?

And I deleted it because it's none of your business.

There, I did it again. I did it because I'm allowed to and I can