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Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:30 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:28 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:22 pm

I see. So you still believe that we should work out the problem of "left vs. right"

Have you been paying attention? I don't think the right is our current "problem." And I don't think there's a future for "Leftism," at least, not a happy one. But I'd be choosing a centrist option.

You might be too convinced there's just two sides, and everything's polarized, Gary. I was pointing out earlier that that's just wrong. The "T" position, remember?

OK. So your wish is to be a Bible Scholar? Is that correct?

Is there something relevant in that (cynically worded) question? I'm not seeing it, if there is...

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:54 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:30 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:28 pm
Have you been paying attention? I don't think the right is our current "problem." And I don't think there's a future for "Leftism," at least, not a happy one. But I'd be choosing a centrist option.

You might be too convinced there's just two sides, and everything's polarized, Gary. I was pointing out earlier that that's just wrong. The "T" position, remember?

OK. So your wish is to be a Bible Scholar? Is that correct?

Is there something relevant in that (cynically worded) question? I'm not seeing it, if there is...

Ah! I see. Thank you for the clarification. How would YOU like ME to regard you? You seem very well versed on the Bible, in terms of me, I sort of think of you as a Bible Scholar, someone who I might consult if I wanted to know what the Bible said about something. Would you like me to see you differently?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:04 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:54 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:30 pm OK. So your wish is to be a Bible Scholar? Is that correct?

Is there something relevant in that (cynically worded) question? I'm not seeing it, if there is...

Ah! I see. Thank you for the clarification. How would YOU like ME to regard you? You seem very well versed on the Bible, in terms of me, I sort of think of you as a Bible Scholar, someone who I might consult if I wanted to know what the Bible said about something. Would you like me to see you differently?

I'd believe your protest, if you weren't saying "your wish is to be." The implication is, obviously, that you don't regard me as credible in that respect, and surmise that I have some desire to pose as one, nonetheless. Your intention is a little insulting, of course, but fails to sting because I'm content to know what I know, and to know that God knows what I know or fail to know. What you know about that is not a matter of great concern to me; why should it be? You, yourself do not, to my knowledge, claim to have insight as to who is one and who is not...is that not so?

Therefore, if you find my answers regarding the Bible forthcoming and exact, then maybe you'll decide you think I'm one...and maybe not. That will be up to you.

So just ask your question.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:29 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:04 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:54 pm
Is there something relevant in that (cynically worded) question? I'm not seeing it, if there is...

Ah! I see. Thank you for the clarification. How would YOU like ME to regard you? You seem very well versed on the Bible, in terms of me, I sort of think of you as a Bible Scholar, someone who I might consult if I wanted to know what the Bible said about something. Would you like me to see you differently?

I'd believe your protest, if you weren't saying "your wish is to be." The implication is, obviously, that you don't regard me as credible in that respect, and surmise that I have some desire to pose as one, nonetheless. Your intention is a little insulting, of course, but fails to sting because I'm content to know what I know, and to know that God knows what I know or fail to know. What you know about that is not a matter of great concern to me; why should it be? You, yourself do not, to my knowledge, claim to have insight as to who is one and who is not...is that not so?

Therefore, if you find my answers regarding the Bible forthcoming and exact, then maybe you'll decide you think I'm one...and maybe not. That will be up to you.

So just ask your question.

OK. So how would you like me to think of you? Would, "person who knows a lot about the Bible be sufficient"? Or perhaps I should revise it to "person who knows more about the Bible than I do"? Would that work? I'm trying to figure out how I should think of you.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:29 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:54 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:08 pm

What makes you think that wars can't be stopped through diplomacy instead of "overpowering force"?

whereas a war on war, perpetrated by a superior force, will end the war that’s intended to be ended.

I doubt war can end war. The "Great" War was not the "war to end all wars." The "2nd World War" was not the war to end all wars. Does it appear to anyone yet that war has not solved anything except to keep war alive? How long do we wish "war" to resonate in our consciousnesses and in our consciences?

I am suggesting something different than a war to end all wars.

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:36 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:29 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:54 pm

whereas a war on war, perpetrated by a superior force, will end the war that’s intended to be ended.

I doubt war can end war. The "Great" War was not the "war to end all wars." The "2nd World War" was not the war to end all wars. Does it appear to anyone yet that war has not solved anything except to keep war alive? How long do we wish "war" to resonate in our consciousnesses and in our consciences?

I am suggesting something different than a war to end all wars.

What is your suggestion?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:33 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:29 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:04 pm

Ah! I see. Thank you for the clarification. How would YOU like ME to regard you? You seem very well versed on the Bible, in terms of me, I sort of think of you as a Bible Scholar, someone who I might consult if I wanted to know what the Bible said about something. Would you like me to see you differently?

I'd believe your protest, if you weren't saying "your wish is to be." The implication is, obviously, that you don't regard me as credible in that respect, and surmise that I have some desire to pose as one, nonetheless. Your intention is a little insulting, of course, but fails to sting because I'm content to know what I know, and to know that God knows what I know or fail to know. What you know about that is not a matter of great concern to me; why should it be? You, yourself do not, to my knowledge, claim to have insight as to who is one and who is not...is that not so?

Therefore, if you find my answers regarding the Bible forthcoming and exact, then maybe you'll decide you think I'm one...and maybe not. That will be up to you.

So just ask your question.

OK. So how would you like me to think of you?

Just ask your question, if you have one.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:40 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:33 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:29 pm
I'd believe your protest, if you weren't saying "your wish is to be." The implication is, obviously, that you don't regard me as credible in that respect, and surmise that I have some desire to pose as one, nonetheless. Your intention is a little insulting, of course, but fails to sting because I'm content to know what I know, and to know that God knows what I know or fail to know. What you know about that is not a matter of great concern to me; why should it be? You, yourself do not, to my knowledge, claim to have insight as to who is one and who is not...is that not so?

Therefore, if you find my answers regarding the Bible forthcoming and exact, then maybe you'll decide you think I'm one...and maybe not. That will be up to you.

So just ask your question.

OK. So how would you like me to think of you?

Just ask your question, if you have one.

No questions right now. Do you have any for me?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:41 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:40 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:33 pm
OK. So how would you like me to think of you?

Just ask your question, if you have one.

No questions right now. Do you have any for me?

So was there a point to all that? Apparently not.

And no, I have none for you.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:51 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:41 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:40 pm
Just ask your question, if you have one.

No questions right now. Do you have any for me?

So was there a point to all that? Apparently not.

And no, I have none for you.

Yes, there was a point. It got us to this moment.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:37 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:36 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:29 pm

I doubt war can end war. The "Great" War was not the "war to end all wars." The "2nd World War" was not the war to end all wars. Does it appear to anyone yet that war has not solved anything except to keep war alive? How long do we wish "war" to resonate in our consciousnesses and in our consciences?

I am suggesting something different than a war to end all wars.

What is your suggestion?

Let me tell you how a war to end one war would work in theory. Let’s say the squirrels have instigated a war against the field mice. Now send the grizzly bears to annihilate the squirrels.

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:33 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:37 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:36 pm

I am suggesting something different than a war to end all wars.

What is your suggestion?

Let me tell you how a war to end one war would work in theory. Let’s say the squirrels have instigated a war against the field mice. Now send the grizzly bears to annihilate the squirrels.

Is that like when Bush invaded Panama in 1989 and then when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 Bush came to the heroic rescue of Kuwait, which started the whole US/Iraq feud? Tell me more!

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:50 pm Let me reword it differently just in case. Biden needs to get out of office (in my opinion). I just don't know who I should vote for as a replacement.

It's incoherent either way you say it.
You are obviously suckling on the tit of Fox news ATM.
THe real problem is staring you in the face,

PROJECT 2025.

Is the end of the American Republic.

THe world is watching in horror.

America is sleepwalking into a fascist state.

And it is GOP that hate democracy.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:16 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:50 pm Let me reword it differently just in case. Biden needs to get out of office (in my opinion). I just don't know who I should vote for as a replacement.

It's incoherent either way you say it.
You are obviously suckling on the tit of Fox news ATM.
THe real problem is staring you in the face,

PROJECT 2025.

Is the end of the American Republic.

THe world is watching in horror.

OK. If you want Biden to remain, then just say it. Otherwise, I have no idea what that means.