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You say and write:
Okay, but just like the weather, who and what you currently resonate with 'now' will change, and very soon I will add.
Age wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:27 pmYou do not know me so stop assuming shit about me. StfuDontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:16 pm Never mind Age …I don’t really care about your tailspin way of speaking, I knew I shouldn’t have replied to you.
You say and write:
"The knowing that is claimed knowing, namely the named one…knows nothing….because the claimed knower is known, but not by the claimed knower…but by the unclaimed knowing of every concept known."
To which I attempt to CORRECT, for 'you', yet it is 'me' who supposedly has "the tailspin way of speaking".
Okay, but just like the weather, who and what you currently resonate with 'now' will change, and very soon I will add.
Roy is my boy…that’s all I have to say..
I’m done with your stupid games. You do my head in.
Just answer this question:
¿In that TRASNCENDENCE of the voice in your head, you still seeing colors and hearing sounds?
Yes or not.
Without the 'thinking', the 'voice in a head' phenomenon, the body is obviously still experiencing through not just those two senses of seeing and hearing but through all five senses, that is; of course, if all five of them are working at the time.
Age, you are simply too convoluted and extremely twisty for my liking. Talking to you is torture to be honest, nothing to do with you as a personality or anything, it's just that I'm just not on the same mental realm as you, and simply have no desire to be, ok.
It took me a little while to work out what was going on in this bizarre video. My first thought was that Roy had been woken from his afternoon nap on the sofa by a severe bout of cramp in his leg, and was having one of those not knowing whether to laugh or cry episodes. The amount of effing that Roy was doing supported that impression, as it is what I also do when I am woken by cramp in my leg. I can't say how similar my performance is to Roy's in any other respect, as I don't tend to have a video camera trained on my sofa in order to capture such moments. It did, however, gradually become apparent that what was being witnessed here was a man in the midst of having an epiphany, in real time, as it was happening. And that also better explains the presence of the video camera. While one might wonder why someone would set up a camera to document an occurence of cramp, should it happen, it is quite easy to see why they would want to record an instance of pure enlightenment unfolding. And that suggests a considerable amount of foresight on Roy's part.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:28 am So, this video....maybe what will stand out is how teenager on pot having insights silliness of it. Others may be struck by the lack of self-care. Not of smoking this hallucinogen, but of posting it.
Have you ever considered how your words come across to "others"?
LOL you write this like I would care.
Okay. But when you 'try to' speak for me and/or "others", then I will remind you that I can CORRECT you.
When you 'try to' speak for me and/or "others", then WE decide whether you are correct or not. Is that understood by you?
When you 'try to' TELL us what is possible or not, then I will CORRECT you, especially in those cases where I have ALREADY DONE and ACHIEVED what you CLAIM are IMPOSSIBLE. Is this understood by you?
'Philosophy' to me is VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.
If ANY of 'you' did NOT have a mental model that was contrary or inconsistent with what is ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True and Right, then 'you' would NOT have to adjust ANY of 'your' Wrong mental models.
Do you FORGET what you write, on purpose or unknowingly?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:31 am if there is any new data coming through to us that we had not thought about before often giving new life to old worn out habitual ways of looking at things...Roy's ideas have revealed new horizons, and sent them my way, many new ways of looking at things, so to speak, he wows me....but you haven't, and don't..ok?
BUT we get to decide when you are Wrong and Incorrect when what you say and claim applies to us. Is this understood by you?
What thee actual Truth is regarding this can be clearly seen here.
Are we clear that when you say and claim that I cannot do some thing, which I have ALREADY DONE, then you are Wrong and Incorrect?
LOL Here is ANOTHER example of you completely and utterly MISSING the POINT.
Well you could conclude with this sentence with EVERY reply, and they would all be just as meaningless, and condescending.
These conversations always remind me of the pot calling the kettle black..they are just pointless and go nowhere, but round and round in endless circles. I'm right your wrong kind of nonesense.
This is exactly how it works for some people. It's not for everyone, but for those who recognise this, it's normal. This has happened to me many times...in fact I remember one time I felt like I was going to collapse because I could not catch my breath I was so overwhelmed by an epiphany I was having at the time.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:28 am I mean, Harbal keeps it simple. Kudos.
But I find the details fascinating also.
What struck me, after the obvious, was the constant...
'the fact I can even navigate'
'I understand'
'I know'
'I understand'
'I knew what was going to happen'
'I knew what was going to happen'
'I know'
'I understand'
'I understand'
I, I, I, I and....understand.
Yeah, sure elephants in the room, but talk about being stuck up in your head and not noticing the context. Even, self-care. Not the smoking of a hallucinogen, but the posting this in youtube. The heady justifications for this are already forming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp7iP7Ayj0k&t=128s
Sure.. but some have more emotions thoughts and feelings to trigger, than others.Age wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:41 pmIf one had really, so-called, 'cessated' their emotions a long time ago, then they would now be emotionless.MagsJ wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:20 pm..the non-creation of, so being emotion less doesn’t mean being an emotionless person, but that a person’s emotions are under their own control.. hence my change of definition, to best-clarify the ‘state’ that Roy mentioned.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:09 pm But that's not what he said. He said 'Yes, it does remove all emotion.'
You even quoted that, in your response to me. Why change the words?
I wasn’t attempting to fool anyone, but to best-describe the ‘state’.
I do not 'get triggered' by others, so there is no emotion/s to be removed.. I am emotion less, but not emotionless.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:09 pm In any case: Have you removed all emotion? If not, then you are talking about something else.
I don't think you are correct about the meaning of cessate or cessation, but that's not so relevant.
Cessation? ..a stopping of or ceasing of, an ‘action’ ‘thought’ or ‘feeling’.
And, if one really had NO emotions to be removed, then they would NOT be a full 'human being'.
Also, not 'getting triggered by others', does not mean that there are NO emotions. Emotions can continually come and go, and they so do, without there ever being any necessity for 'getting triggered by others' at all.MagsJ wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:20 pm..ever been stuck in ‘fight or flight’? ..is why.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:09 pm And of course reducing stress levels, if they are unhealthy, is a good thing.
Nobody cares whether you’re struggling and stressed.. you gotta do that yourself.. control input/output, to lesson the unnecessary burden of others’ whims.
Why not try switching the context from ''my /your head'' to just HEAD..or no head, as in not mine, but HERE all the same.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:28 am
Yeah, sure elephants in the room, but talk about being stuck up in your head and not noticing the context. Even, self-care. Not the smoking of a hallucinogen, but the posting this in youtube. The heady justifications for this are already forming.
