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Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:33 pm
by raw_thought
Good grief. that is not a square circle.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:35 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:33 pm Good grief. that is not a square circle.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Skepdick wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:30 pm Next thing you are going to tell me "that's not a square circle".
Logically/Mathematically that is a square circle.

If you meant something different, explain your meaning.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 pm
by raw_thought
Show me a square that has only one distance for its radius.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:41 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:39 pm Show me a square that has only one distance for its radius.
I did!!!!!!!

Read the wikipedia article. Even the specific meaning of "distance" is defined for you.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:41 pm
by raw_thought
By definition a circle has only one numerical value for its radius. Squares have different distances from its center.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:41 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:41 pm By definition a circle has only one numerical value for its radius. Squares have different distances from its center.
By whose definition?
By which definition of "distance" ?

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:44 pm
by raw_thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the diagonal "radius" is different from the vertical and horizonal "radius".

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:44 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:44 pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the diagonal "radius" is different from the vertical and horizonal "radius".
No it isn't. you are measuring "distance" wrong.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:45 pm
by raw_thought
Definitions from all of math.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:47 pm
by raw_thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the up and down lengths are greater then the distance of the diagonal lines.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:48 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:45 pm Definitions from all of math.
Math has many different definitions of "distance".

Which one are you using?

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:48 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:47 pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
Note that the up and down lengths are greater then the distance of the diagonal lines.
No. They are not.

They are identical. You are MEASURING "distance" using the wrong definition.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:50 pm
by raw_thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
look at the top picture. The dot at the top is 2 from the center. The diagonal dot is 1 unit from the center.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:51 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:50 pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_g ... Circle.svg
look at the top picture. The dot at the top is 2 from the center. The diagonal dot is 1 unit from the center.
Any dot on the circumference is 1 unit from the center!!!!

That's why it's a circle.

YOU ARE USING THE WRONG UNIT.

Read this paragraph and understand it.
In taxicab geometry, distance is determined by a different metric than in Euclidean geometry, and the shape of circles changes as well.

Re: P=P is a Contradiction

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:54 pm
by raw_thought
I am using the units in the picture. Its 2 units from the top to the center and only one unit diagonally.