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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:16 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:01 am You contradicted yourself neatly. I was named, but "IT" has no name, and it's definitely not like any God we came up with, because it isn't like anything at all. So why call it God?

You don't have to call IT anything at all, but without knowledge, nothing IS KNOWN.

Why do we say IT'S raining? ..what is this IT that is raining?

Words follow the not-knowing, words are knowledge born of not-knowing.



I am the word and the word is with the knower of the word.

Who's playing God here, who ?

Am I playing a role, or am I the role I'm playing?

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When "it" is raining, there is rain which is water. Water is a concrete thing falling from the clouds.

So whenever you see the word "it" in an English sentence, you immediately think "ohmigosh, God is playing"?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:23 am When "it" is raining, there is rain which is water. Water is a concrete thing falling from the clouds.

So whenever you see the word "it" in an English sentence, you immediately think "ohmigosh, God is playing"?

Thoughts are things.

Who thinks?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:27 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:23 am When "it" is raining, there is rain which is water. Water is a concrete thing falling from the clouds.

So whenever you see the word "it" in an English sentence, you immediately think "ohmigosh, God is playing"?

Thoughts are things.

Who thinks?

For all practical purposes, I think. Because those thoughts are basically inside this human's head.
Yes yes those thoughts are also "IT" just like everything else, so what?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:33 am For all practical purposes, I think. Because those thoughts are basically inside this human's head.
Yes yes those thoughts are also "IT" just like everything else, so what?

So why call it Human?

Reflex wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:14 pmQuestion: How do you know what is or is not one/connected/of-God?

Answer: How do you not know?

What isn't realised here ..is that the answer is in the question:.. else the question wouldn't even arise in the first place.

YOU cannot not know, any more than you cannot not be here. The fact that you are here, is the only proof that cannot be disproved.

Just try not being and then know you are not being.

The YOU has never been here or has come here. The NOW doesn't come and go. It's always here NOW.

You are NOW

The mind simply cannot grasp the idea that the YOU is infinity NOW

The name-tag is just along for the ride, Tag, you're IT

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Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:30 pm Why call it God? Why (as you said earlier) "find an idea of God" at all? What's the point of that?

Well its kind of like when you put a label on a tin of beans, to indicate what's in the can,else you wouldn't want to be eating dog food..


However, what's on the label is not what's inside the can is it?... the label is a description, not the prescription.

You are the beans, you're not the label...just as a menu is not the food.

You are the unseen seen. The unknown knower.

You can't see the seer, you are seeing.

You can't know the knower, you are knowing.



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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:42 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:33 am For all practical purposes, I think. Because those thoughts are basically inside this human's head.
Yes yes those thoughts are also "IT" just like everything else, so what?

So why call it Human?

Why, who calls the world "Human"?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:23 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:42 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:33 am For all practical purposes, I think. Because those thoughts are basically inside this human's head.
Yes yes those thoughts are also "IT" just like everything else, so what?

So why call it Human?

Why, who calls the world "Human"?

That's what I'm asking you, but all you've done is throw the question back at me.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:41 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:23 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:42 am


So why call it Human?

Why, who calls the world "Human"?

That's what I'm asking you, but all you've done is throw the question back at me.

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Because I've never heard such a thing before.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:50 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:41 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:23 pm
Why, who calls the world "Human"?

That's what I'm asking you, but all you've done is throw the question back at me.

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Because I've never heard such a thing before.

That's because things which are thoughts, don't exist, but for practical purposes only, in the story of I

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:26 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:50 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:41 pm

That's what I'm asking you, but all you've done is throw the question back at me.

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Because I've never heard such a thing before.

That's because things which are thoughts, don't exist, but for practical purposes only, in the story of I

Yeah as expected, you can't even follow what you yourself write.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:29 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:26 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:50 pm
Because I've never heard such a thing before.

That's because things which are thoughts, don't exist, but for practical purposes only, in the story of I

Yeah as expected, you can't even follow what you yourself write.

I think you are mistaken, your the one who said
''Because those thoughts are basically inside this human's head.''

So I responded why call it human?

The word ''world'' wasn't mentioned.

Except here ...you said

Why, who calls the world "Human"?

Do you even know what you are talking about?

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:55 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:29 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:26 pm

That's because things which are thoughts, don't exist, but for practical purposes only, in the story of I

Yeah as expected, you can't even follow what you yourself write.

I think you are mistaken, your the one who said
''Because those thoughts are basically inside this human's head.''

So I responded why call it human?

The word ''world'' wasn't mentioned.

Except here ...you said

Why, who calls the world "Human"?

Do you even know what you are talking about?

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So you don't see a difference between a human and the entire world?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:00 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:55 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:29 pm
Yeah as expected, you can't even follow what you yourself write.

I think you are mistaken, your the one who said
''Because those thoughts are basically inside this human's head.''

So I responded why call it human?

The word ''world'' wasn't mentioned.

Except here ...you said

Why, who calls the world "Human"?

Do you even know what you are talking about?

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So you don't see a difference between a human and the entire world?

There is no world except in this conception.

Who conceives ?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:08 pm There is no world except in this conception.

Who conceives ?

So are you so delusional that you don't see human conception as part of the world?