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Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:26 pm
by Dalek Prime
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:25 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:23 pm
Now that's just stupid.
Just spit your point out precisely, if you have one. I'll tell you if I agree or not, should it make sense.
You seem to be losing ground have you lost your tongue?
Just keep answering the questions?
I thought ground doesn't exist to you? What are your basic premises, DAMarse? I don't think mystics have any. Without premises, there is no basis for philosophy.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:29 pm
by Dontaskme
What is aware of doubtfulness or uncertainty of meaning or intention? ..is it the something you mentioned earlier?
What knows this some thing?
Just answer the question.
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Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:30 pm
by Dontaskme
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:26 pm
I thought ground doesn't exist to you?
Do you even know who this you is that you keep referring to?
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Is this you the something that you said doesn't need an aware creator..so tell me who is aware of this you that you keep referring to?
Just answer the question?
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Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:32 pm
by Dalek Prime
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:30 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:26 pm
I thought ground doesn't exist to you?
Do you even know who this you is that you keep refering to?
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Self-referential question, which answers it. Are you aware of the difference between philosophy and puerile rhetoric? I'm taking my awareness of yours elsewhere. Have fun.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:35 pm
by Dontaskme
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:32 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:30 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:26 pm
I thought ground doesn't exist to you?
Do you even know who this you is that you keep refering to?
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Self-referential question, which answers it.
To whom would a question arise? ..and who would be aware of it...if like you say there is no need for an aware creator of the self something.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:37 pm
by Dalek Prime
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:35 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:32 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:30 pm
Do you even know who this you is that you keep refering to?
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Self-referential question, which answers it.
To whom would a question arise? ..and who would be aware of it...if like you say there is no need for an aware creator of the self something.
Are you saying you are a dualist? Just answer that, yes or no. Real simple here.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:41 pm
by Dontaskme
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:32 pm
I'm taking my awareness of yours elsewhere. Have fun.
You do not have awareness - you are awareness.
Your logic is half baked and you know it...because you cannot answer the simple question what is the thing in your claimed something exists that does not need an aware creator.
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Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:42 pm
by Dontaskme
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:37 pm
Are you saying you are a dualist? Just answer that, yes or no. Real simple here.
The one who claims it is a dualist is a mental construction, it's an idea and has no reality outside of that which is aware of the concept as the concept is known.
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Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:43 pm
by Dalek Prime
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:41 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:32 pm
I'm taking my awareness of yours elsewhere. Have fun.
You do not have awareness - you are awareness.
Your logic is half baked and you know it...because you cannot answer the simple question what is the thing in your claimed something exists that does not need an aware creator.
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The physiology of my brain lays the foundation of my awareness.
The creator of that physiology were my parents at conception.
When my body dies, so to shall that awareness.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:46 pm
by Dontaskme
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:43 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:41 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:32 pm
I'm taking my awareness of yours elsewhere. Have fun.
You do not have awareness - you are awareness.
Your logic is half baked and you know it...because you cannot answer the simple question what is the thing in your claimed something exists that does not need an aware creator.
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The physiology of my brain lays the foundation of my awareness.
The creator of that physiology were my parents at conception.
Who created the very first human? ..was that creator human?
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Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:47 pm
by Dalek Prime
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:46 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:43 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:41 pm
You do not have awareness - you are awareness.
Your logic is half baked and you know it...because you cannot answer the simple question what is the thing in your claimed something exists that does not need an aware creator.
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The physiology of my brain lays the foundation of my awareness.
The creator of that physiology were my parents at conception.
Who created the very first human?
It doesn't matter. But since you asked, a random process did.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:48 pm
by Dontaskme
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:47 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:46 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:43 pm
The physiology of my brain lays the foundation of my awareness.
The creator of that physiology were my parents at conception.
Who created the very first human?
It doesn't matter. But since you asked, a random process did.
was this process human?
If the answer is no, then your parents did not conceive you.
You are talking about knowledge when you refer to conception..
who is aware that it has been conceived?
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Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:49 pm
by Dalek Prime
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:48 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:47 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:46 pm
Who created the very first human?
It doesn't matter. But since you asked, a random process did.
was this process human?
No. It was random, sans awareness.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:53 pm
by Dontaskme
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:49 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:48 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:47 pm
It doesn't matter. But since you asked, a random process did.
was this process human?
No. It was random, sans awareness.
So awareness is involved then, in the process of conception.
Even though youve already denied it is needed for the something to exist.
Re: The Scapegoat
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:59 pm
by Dalek Prime
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:53 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:49 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:48 pm
was this process human?
No. It was random, sans awareness.
So awareness is involved then, in the process of conception.
Even though youve already denied it is needed for the something to exist.
Paracelsus: things exist independently of awareness. And you keep swapping evolution for my parents. And you are either doing this on purpose, or you are thick. Or both. And we are done, because I won't play your game.