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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:52 am

gaffo wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:02 am

Science Fan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:38 am Veggie: Damn you are thick. The PC-brigade spends a lot of its time bad-mouthing the USA. That's as true of Americans who are into PC as it is for Kiwis who are into PC.

true Sir. even when i was in college in the 90's it was fastionable to slam American Empririalism - and the USSR was still around (barely)!

Umm no. I just can't stand America and Americans. Can't stand anything about them. That's neither 'right' nor 'wrong'. It just is.
Btw, what's WRT?

Failure to acknowledge one’s own natural capacity for depth of understanding as a human being, in favor of shallow bigotry, is a wrongness in the same way that Einstein the Plumber would have been a wrongness. This doesn’t mean that plumbers are wrong, but it does mean that eagles were not created to walk as penguins.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:08 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:52 am

gaffo wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:02 am

true Sir. even when i was in college in the 90's it was fastionable to slam American Empririalism - and the USSR was still around (barely)!

Umm no. I just can't stand America and Americans. Can't stand anything about them. That's neither 'right' nor 'wrong'. It just is.
Btw, what's WRT?

Failure to acknowledge one’s own natural capacity for depth of understanding as a human being, in favor of shallow bigotry, is a wrongness in the same way that Einstein the Plumber would have been a wrongness. This doesn’t mean that plumbers are wrong, but it does mean that eagles were not created to walk as penguins.

There is no 'bigotry' involved. I have been quite forthcoming on the reasons why I can't stand y'all. Why do you get so 'butt hurt'? What's there to like?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 9:54 am

Walker wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:08 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:52 am

Umm no. I just can't stand America and Americans. Can't stand anything about them. That's neither 'right' nor 'wrong'. It just is.
Btw, what's WRT?

Failure to acknowledge one’s own natural capacity for depth of understanding as a human being, in favor of shallow bigotry, is a wrongness in the same way that Einstein the Plumber would have been a wrongness. This doesn’t mean that plumbers are wrong, but it does mean that eagles were not created to walk as penguins.

There is no 'bigotry' involved. I have been quite forthcoming on the reasons why I can't stand y'all. Why do you get so 'butt hurt'? What's there to like?

Not at all hurt. You should know by now that I take you as you are.

What are those reasons again? I thought you said, just because.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:19 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 9:54 am

Walker wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:08 am
Failure to acknowledge one’s own natural capacity for depth of understanding as a human being, in favor of shallow bigotry, is a wrongness in the same way that Einstein the Plumber would have been a wrongness. This doesn’t mean that plumbers are wrong, but it does mean that eagles were not created to walk as penguins.

There is no 'bigotry' involved. I have been quite forthcoming on the reasons why I can't stand y'all. Why do you get so 'butt hurt'? What's there to like?

Not at all hurt. You should know by now that I take you as you are.

What are those reasons again? I thought you said, just because.

Why does anyone not like someone or something? There is always a reason or reasons.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:52 am

gaffo wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:02 am

Science Fan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:38 am Veggie: Damn you are thick. The PC-brigade spends a lot of its time bad-mouthing the USA. That's as true of Americans who are into PC as it is for Kiwis who are into PC.

true Sir. even when i was in college in the 90's it was fastionable to slam American Empririalism - and the USSR was still around (barely)!

Umm no. I just can't stand America and Americans. Can't stand anything about them. That's neither 'right' nor 'wrong'. It just is.
Btw, what's WRT?

Since Trump i don't like American much myself.

"WRT" is like "BTW" an acronym

"with respect to"

gaffo wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:07 pmSince Trump i don't like American much myself.

"WRT" is like "BTW" an acronym

"with respect to"

What’s wrong with POTUS Trump?

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Some facts:

Why Trump Is a President Like No Other
By Victor Davis Hanson| May 15th, 2018
https://amgreatness.com/2018/05/15/why- ... -no-other/

Walker wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 3:06 am

gaffo wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:07 pmSince Trump i don't like American much myself.

"WRT" is like "BTW" an acronym

"with respect to"

What’s wrong with POTUS Trump?

*

Some facts:

Why Trump Is a President Like No Other
By Victor Davis Hanson| May 15th, 2018
https://amgreatness.com/2018/05/15/why- ... -no-other/

lack of character (crass tweets that are undignified).

probable links to a hostile foreign power - i never liked "Reds" - nor do i like Russians today - one thing the "old School Conservatives and I were in agreement of -today Conservatives are Red's bed buddies - IMO that is treason. call me a libtard if that make you feel better.


I have The Manchurian Candidate on Bluray - have you watched the original (I never bothered to acknowledge the remake/nor ever saw it- nor wish to).

the original is "dated" (esp via the concept of psychological control over one's will via torchure, deck of cards.....................etc (i.e the idea that one's concious will can be overcome be "mind control meanings").........................so no/ and ya..............no, that movie is wrong about the power of torchure , but still a good movie in and of itself. the movie is a product of its time, it remains remembered as one of the greats because the work was better than the ave of its time.

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i've digressed.........

my apologies.

I'm dyslexic ......................FYI.....................so deal or defame per your character.


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I'm not a conservative - but respect many "RINO's/Paleo - ones........................i loathe Taliban "conservatives" (i.e. the left standing after Trumpism") pussies that remain in the senate/house.


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I digreressed and let my hate of trump derail.

you've made some threads/and replies - many i concurned with -so appolligize for my hate of Trump.

you asked my why i thought as i do and repied.


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I wish you well, and hope you see Trump as i do.

but if you not, you are not my enemy (is my view vise versa - asking you Sir).


and i welcome understanding between us.

gaffo wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 10:26 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 3:06 am

gaffo wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:07 pmSince Trump i don't like American much myself.

"WRT" is like "BTW" an acronym

"with respect to"

What’s wrong with POTUS Trump?

*

Some facts:

Why Trump Is a President Like No Other
By Victor Davis Hanson| May 15th, 2018
https://amgreatness.com/2018/05/15/why- ... -no-other/

lack of character (crass tweets that are undignified).

probable links to a hostile foreign power - i never liked "Reds" - nor do i like Russians today - one thing the "old School Conservatives and I were in agreement of -today Conservatives are Red's bed buddies - IMO that is treason. call me a libtard if that make you feel better.


I have The Manchurian Candidate on Bluray - have you watched the original (I never bothered to acknowledge the remake/nor ever saw it- nor wish to).

the original is "dated" (esp via the concept of psychological control over one's will via torchure, deck of cards.....................etc (i.e the idea that one's concious will can be overcome be "mind control meanings").........................so no/ and ya..............no, that movie is wrong about the power of torchure , but still a good movie in and of itself. the movie is a product of its time, it remains remembered as one of the greats because the work was better than the ave of its time.

..................


i've digressed.........

my apologies.

I'm dyslexic ......................FYI.....................so deal or defame per your character.


.........................

I'm not a conservative - but respect many "RINO's/Paleo - ones........................i loathe Taliban "conservatives" (i.e. the left standing after Trumpism") pussies that remain in the senate/house.


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I digreressed and let my hate of trump derail.

you've made some threads/and replies - many i concurned with -so appolligize for my hate of Trump.

you asked my why i thought as i do and repied.


------------

I wish you well, and hope you see Trump as i do.

but if you not, you are not my enemy (is my view vise versa - asking you Sir).


and i welcome understanding between us.

You idiots are still seeing 'reds under the beds' How is Russia 'hostile' to you? I know a few Russian people and not one of them is 'hostile' to the US. Y'all need to have a good look in a mirror (and I don't mean for taking a 'selfie').

gaffo:

POTUS Trump’s involvement with Russia to win the presidency is a fiction dreamed up after the election.

People who don’t pay attention think there must be something to it, just because of the babble noise.

After about a year and half now, Quagmire Mueller has no evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election, and no reason to continue investigating.

This is not to say that Russia doesn’t try to influence U.S. politics, which is why during Hillary’s campaign, Obama said that Russia could not logistically tip an election. He said so because he hoped that Hillary would win, and if she did, it would throw the same doubt on the election outcome that the Liberals are now throwing on the election outcome.

His tune changed when Hillary lost. The fiction was amplified in order for Dems to reconcile the contradiction between their perception and reality, and to create a “resistance movement,” as they label themselves, which in effect is resistance to the U.S. electoral process, the constitution, and reality.

Folks that don’t buy into their fantasy become targets of the Liberals, who play really nasty.

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From what you write, Trump disrupts your notions of how a president should behave.

The following quote is lying crap far more egregious and disgraceful to the office, and to those who have held the office, than Trump speaking language that his enemies can hear.

“President Barack Obama took a light swing at his successor during a tech conference in Las Vegas on Wednesday. His eight years in office were scandal free, he told the audience.

‘I didn't have scandals, which seems like it shouldn't be something you* brag about,’ Obama joked.”

It obviously seems to Obama that his scandals are something he should lie about.

(*Technically, his mindful use of the pronoun “you” in the sentence makes it correct, for while the statement says it is something that you shouldn’t brag about, he doesn't say anything about himself bragging. Isn’t he such a clever, intelligent fellow for twisting language and meaning like that, and mimicking what he thinks is a presidential style while speaking? Uhhhhh, if put under oath, he might even wax philosophic about the definition of "is."(sarcasm)).

And he sure as hell should be put under oath, but if he was ever to be put under oath in the future , that would set a dangerous precedent, which is what the Mueller investigation has done.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 2:34 pm gaffo:

Hello Walker, thanks for reply. I've seen your posts here - you are in the "political right" camp, and though too partisan (for me any partisanism is too partisan) - but you show yourself as having a mind, and some horse sense, and so welcome discussion.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 2:34 pm POTUS Trump’s involvement with Russia to win the presidency is a fiction dreamed up after the election.

You show bias - not objectivity - in discounting this thesis (esp, prior to the conclusion of the investigation (which could be treason - you do understand that colluding with a hostile foreign power to gain the presidency IS Treason - if under the most extreme circumstances) - you do YES?

I'm asking you as one American to another - I love my Nation (my Constitution - not the land under it) - I assume you do too.


if so, THEN do not fail being an honest American - allow Mueller to conclude his investigation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (before you prejugde it!!!!!!!!!!! (BTW - you ARE doing just that - so you need to look within and be honest with your personal bias and why you assume Trump is innocent prior to the conclusion of the Mueler investigation.

which might take 3 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - KEN STAR ANYONE - talk about a NOTHING BURGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOUR FUCKING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and you "trumpster snowflakes" started crying about 6 months ago about Mueller taking too long!!!!!!!!!!!! -----------so that leaves, lets see 4 yrs minus 9 months..................

3.25 yrs - minus the fucking pussy belly aching from Trumpers over Meuler taking too long the last 6 months.


just short of 3 more years it might take to conclude the investigation.


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BTW you can thank Star with his 4 yr "got nothin" burger - to set the precedent.


so buck up buttercup, you might/probably will have to wait another 2-3 yrs.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 2:34 pm After about a year and half now, Quagmire Mueller has no evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election, and no reason to continue investigating.

Oh I see. So you are one of Mueller's hires - a lawyer or investigator.

So you know he's "got nothing".

Thanks for letting us know!

Aren't you scared that you will be charged with ostruction of justice?

with the resulting trial/fine.

I commend you for coming "out for the people" and letting us know that Mueller is a tribalist Obama-ite, knowing (you being in on the investigation and one of the 30 or so).

the Wise man is never love, nor the Prophet in his own land.

and so i commend you.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 2:34 pm This is not to say that Russia doesn’t try to influence U.S. politics, which is why during Hillary’s campaign, Obama said that Russia could not logistically tip an election. He said so because he hoped that Hillary would win, and if she did, it would throw the same doubt on the election outcome that the Liberals are now throwing on the election outcome.

of course!!!!!!!!!!! I assumed she'd win - everyone assumed she's win!!!!!!!!!!! - SHE was Tamminy Hall fking Machine - the bitch was corronated 10 yrs ago - only Obama won instead! (that should have been a "wake up call" to the DNC - but nope - so we go the "redo" - and even then Sanders (who i like - as i like/d Obama - both via charactor and policywise)..........fk Sander ALMOST beat William Jennings Brain............er, I mean the WEAK Be-itch that I and most others who voted for - did so because though we hated her we feared Trump morso as a SHitler-stirer - and "destoyer" of what is left of America.

from the weak and corrupt olligarch than Billary would have sustained - to a fullbore "pitchfork of the masses cult of personality Trumpian nihalism" distruction of America - PAST redemption after the term.

i.e. there might no longer be a term - you figure it out.

I know my history - including German from 1929 to 1933.

do you?

- that goes for Italy in 1921-1923 also btw.

That’s just a lot of noise that doesn’t bear repeating with a quote.



Trump is innocent of all charges because no charges have been made.
No charges have been made because there is no evidence to make any charges.
No crime was witnessed.
No charges have been made.
There is no evidence.
There is no proof.
No one from security has called the cops about another late-night burglary.

It’s the Age of Fish(ing).

Oh, how the Progs so desperately want this to be about Watergate, which it is not.

There’s not even evidence like this crock o-crap right out of a movie.
Hot mic my ass ... and then see what you hear. BO is playing to his political base in the clip … by any means necessary goes the motto, yeah go the fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

However, there is lots and lots of evidence to bring charges against Hillary Clinton and many of the people associated with her, evidence which gets ignored except by those with eyes and minds and a knowledge of right and wrong.

Haven’t you been paying attention to more recent history?

- The whole Mueller thing is self-perpetuating noise, like speaker feed-back.

- It’s a half-filled bowl of spaghetti looking for a wall and sucking down a paycheck.

- It’s the drowning Progs desperately seeking relevance through the legitimacy of a process that was begun under false pretenses, for political purposes.

- What has been laid bare and naked since the election is a festering stench in the losing party of Clinton, which was part of the deep intertwining of pay to play.

What’s going on is:
- a slow-motion coup via corruption at unlimited taxpaper expense, using a boundless, politically-motivated prosecutorial procedure.
- it’s also an investigative procedure, and it’s also a persecutorial procedure, for a corrupt reason. That reason is simply the entrenchment of vested interests rather than to represent the will of the people, which has already spoken, and spoke to oust that entrenched power.

This is the philosophy behind the slogan, Drain The Swamp.



Now that you know what’s going on, may you go forth and allow philosophy to spontaneously flower in your inimitable way, and to allow it to wash away wallowing in the mud of fictional irrelevancies founded on delusional hopes of power-players, the diposed bishops of Washington power who definitely view your existence as fodder for their own power struggles … which is obvious by the open border policy that is a subject of world-wide incredulity.

(All that "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" style going-on reminds me of some other postings)

I live on a farm in the Bible Belt, but not too far from a small university town

so when i go into town i get to overheard some interesting debates

a few days back I went into town, stopped for a coffee and overheard two students, one trump supporter, one not, get into argument about why Trump got so few votes from black women

according to the trump supporter it was because black women are especially susceptible to left wing propaganda that was created by George Soros just for that purpose

the other guy nearly spewed his coffee out his nose

It goes without saynig that where I live there are lots of baptists. Mostly the regular kind, but there is also a small no heller Baptist congregation . regular baptists are overwhelmingly republican and pro-trump. no heller Baptists are not. Got to wonder if George Soros is behind that.

How racist, referring to skin-tone when talking about voting statistics.

gaffo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:46 am


You show bias - not objectivity - in discounting this thesis (esp, prior to the conclusion of the investigation (which could be treason - you do understand that colluding with a hostile foreign power to gain the presidency IS Treason - if under the most extreme circumstances) - you do YES?

How is it hostile? Is it because you sometimes squabble over the same ''cookie"? Could you list the number of times the US has been attacked by Russia?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:23 pm How racist, referring to skin-tone when talking about voting statistics.

How idealistic, excluding an entire subsystem of demographic, for the sake of being extreme right-wing.

By singling out that it's wrong to talk about subgroups like Black Women, you, VT, are suggesting that it is wrong to be Black women.

There is nothing wrong with being a Black woman. The only thing wrong is to ASSUME and to INSINUATE that there is something wrong with being a Black woman.

WHY, oh why is it not a problem for you to talk about male computer programmers, or about female Chef Devouire Chautes, or South Asian actuaries, but it is a problem for you to talk about Black females as a voter demographic? I am actually genuinely curious, it's not a rhetorical question.

I am not picking a fight, I want to know instead what it is that is wrong in your view with skin colour. Or with talking about it.