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Seleucus wrote:... But a whole new generation of White men and women are waking up out of that Post-War malaise, and we are vivacious and determined!!

But you're not white? You're a bubble.

He is, as you noted, a sad little troll who probably posts from mommy's basement. His idiotic views on race and culture are wholly refuted by genetics. He's not worth wasting another word on.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:03 pmWhat a sad little troll you are.

davidm wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:21 pma sad little troll who probably posts from mommy's basement. His idiotic

Please don't think that I don't empathize and understand. Don't think that it went unnoticed that the whole mob of politically correct beta leftists never once in all these pages of discussion cited even one philosopher, one book, or one scholarly research article -- instead, name calling. I know, you are exhausted, demoralized, apathetic, purposeless, depressed. The rightist narrative explains the psychological malaise by the formation of an epochal foundation myth that came out of the Holocoaust and fratricidal Second World War:

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/730498124241444864

Basically I agree, but not living in Europe or America I see it from the perspective of the colonies. To save face, Westerners told themselves that they gave up world leadership because it was morally wrong. But the slight of hand did not really fool anyone, Whites lost world leadership after they exhausted themselves uselessly fighting each other and then retroactively tried to insist that that's what they intended to do all along. Actually European peoples were completely humiliated, and they fell into stupor. But time heals all wounds they say. And the young generation, no longer mentally tied to these post-war narratives of defeatism is coming back to life, proud and sharp... heroic.

Seleucus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:12 am

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:03 pmWhat a sad little troll you are.

davidm wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:21 pma sad little troll who probably posts from mommy's basement. His idiotic

Please don't think that I don't empathize and understand. Don't think that it went unnoticed that the whole mob of politically correct beta leftists never once in all these pages of discussion cited even one philosopher, one book, or one scholarly research article -- instead, name calling. I know, you are exhausted, demoralized, apathetic, purposeless, depressed. The rightist narrative explains the psychological malaise by the formation of an epochal foundation myth that came out of the Holocoaust and fratricidal Second World War:

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/730498124241444864

Basically I agree, but not living in Europe or America I see it from the perspective of the colonies. To save face, Westerners told themselves that they gave up world leadership because it was morally wrong. But the slight of hand did not really fool anyone, Whites lost world leadership after they exhausted themselves uselessly fighting each other and then retroactively tried to insist that that's what they intended to do all along. Actually European peoples were completely humiliated, and they fell into stupor. But time heals all wounds they say. And the young generation, no longer mentally tied to these post-war narratives of defeatism is coming back to life, proud and sharp... heroic.

So anyone who disagrees with your unscientific, unresearched (unless you count 'Stormfront' as research) rubbish must be 'Politically Correct'?

Londoner wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 pmFrench is a language.

I know very well that "Europe" is a political power construct. There is a fascinating article on the history of idea of Europe co-written by the brilliant young linguist Martin Lewis here,

http://www.weisun.org/worldhistory_hono ... inents.pdf

I also know there never really was anyone who was Japheth.

But it doesn't matter, that's the power of symbols. Did you watch the TV series "Rome", probably not. But it was terribly disappointing when Ciaran Hinds who played Caesar didn't say "The die is cast" when he crossed the Rubicon. It doesn't matter that historically he didn't really say it, it is still part of the story of Caesar. Just the same, when Ciaran Hinds didn't say, "You too Brutus", that was terrible, even thought historically he didn't really say, the mythos is greater than the reality. Same thing with the story of Muhammad planning to kill himself after his first revelation. It doesn't matter what the truth really was, if ever anyone will know, it's the understanding of the story that's meaningful.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:17 amunscientific

That's why scientific reductionism goes no where but to meaninglessness, facts just don't mean anything. That's why rightist thinkers like de Maistre wrote vitriolically against science and advocated for a society that is irrational and instead based on "Tradition! Tradition!"

Seleucus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:49 pm

Londoner wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 pmIt is possible to be a heterosexual male and not wear pants

No actually, it isn't.

Scotsmen and their Kilts?

Londoner wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 pm

Seleucus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:02 pm So the fact of ligers means that lions and tigers never really existed?

Lions and tigers are different species. Breeds of dogs are all the same species, so are different types of human.

The existence of Ligers simply demonstrates that Lions and Tigers are the same species since by definition different species cannot produce viable offspring, but a liger is sometimes fertil.

Seleucus wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:24 am facts just don't mean anything. That's why rightist thinkers like de Maistre wrote vitriolically against science and advocated for a society that is irrational and instead based on "Tradition! Tradition!"

''A key figure of the "Counter-Enlightenment", Maistre regarded monarchy as both a divinely sanctioned institution and as the only stable form of government. He called for the restoration of the House of Bourbon to the throne of France and for the ultimate authority of the Pope in temporal matters.''

Oh wow. ''Counter-enlightenment'' says it all really.

Seleucus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:08 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:03 amadd their cultural assets to Anglo Saxon cultural assets.

I'm all for syncretism, but the fact is that "culture enrichment" has become a punch-line.

Are you trying to insult me? I have been direct in my replies to you. Please take back "punch-line".

Seleucus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:08 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:03 amadd their cultural assets to Anglo Saxon cultural assets.

I'm all for syncretism, but the fact is that "culture enrichment" has become a punch-line.

Are you trying to insult me? I have been direct in my replies to you. Please take back "punch-line".

For one small example, I have myself already been advantaged by understanding how idolatry is the prime target of Koranic rules. If a foreign source had not been involved, I'd not have paid the idea of idolatry much attention.Paying attention is the baseline for progress in learning, and foreign ideas should be welcomed as ideas, and should be incorporated, without the interference of romantical nostalgia , into the elite culture when they are practically advantageous.

Seleucus wrote:

While in theory an immigrant of the Chinese race to America might come to love democracy, develop a sense of creativity and initiative, come to value health and fitness and nature as do real White men. But what is actually happening is Chinese are living in their Chinatowns, speaking Chinese, hold authoritarian communist political views and vote Democrat, are burning with racist hatred of White people, spend all their time indoors so they're pale and weak and have bad eyes. That's the racial reality. If too many of these Chinese get into North America and too many Muslims into Europe we are not going to have Western societies any more, or at best we're going to have radically divided countries.

Are you Donald Trump?
Of course a politician of common sense and decency does not overlook differences in beliefs and practices between traditional cultures within the same nation. The way ahead is building upon common needs and wants, not stirring up resentments. I have sympathised with you about noisy mosques; now can we please dispense with handwringing about differences?

Belinda wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:40 am

Seleucus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:08 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:03 amadd their cultural assets to Anglo Saxon cultural assets.

I'm all for syncretism, but the fact is that "culture enrichment" has become a punch-line.

Are you trying to insult me? I have been direct in my replies to you. Please take back "punch-line".

Perhaps there is some miscommunication? I mean, the expression "cultural enrichment" has become the puch-line of jokes, see below:

https://youtu.be/9jxnk_Zqhe8
https://youtu.be/F-LhfKKgncg
https://youtu.be/E-vRz0D9WZ8
https://youtu.be/4sPotIV1nC4
https://youtu.be/bh1-AHCjfcs
https://youtu.be/xKSXfECAw3Q
https://youtu.be/0DcXcFncYy8
https://youtu.be/argbw6C6TcM
https://youtu.be/-yQGYC0kjtI

And on and on and on...

Nothing is gained by bringing millions of Africans and Muslims into our countries.

Regarding the youtube 'jokes', Seleucus. I don't like criminals either.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:49 amOh wow. ''Counter-enlightenment'' says it all really.

If I'm not mistaken, the phrase "counter-enlightenment" was coined by Isaiah Berlin, who had a negative view of the movement, so ought possibly to be used with a grain of salt as they say.

thedoc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:48 am The existence of Ligers simply demonstrates that Lions and Tigers are the same species since by definition different species cannot produce viable offspring, but a liger is sometimes fertil.

The definition of species isn't that simple:

https://www.quora.com/How-can-tigers-an ... nt-species

And of course there are no problems of fertility at all when humans breed; both their male and female children will be fertile.