Immanuel Can wrote:
So you need to show not that Nietzsche did not share Hitler's antipathy to Jews, but that his moral framework says something against a Hitler. You need to show why Hitler is NOT a reasonable interpretation of Nietzschean morality...or you've really solved nothing.
Then Hitler is still a legitimate child of Nietzsche, and not at all his illegitimate progeny.
...and who are YOU whom we must prove this to when so many critical thinkers proclaim the opposite according to historical research, written data not to mention simple logic? How much of that have you done or to any extent tried to do? Everyone of your surface opinions immediately coalesce into certainty as if all truth floats in the puddle of a two minute rain storm endorsed by nothing more than verbal subterfuge and its constant stupid demands for proof!
You offer nothing but opinion but from everyone else you demand proof! What hypocrisy! ...and this from someone who believes Jesus is his Savior who died for our sins based only on a few pages in the bible!
As a member of a "minority" group up against established evidence, it is up to you to prove what you state as truth. You've been reminded of this so often. The fact that you never have "proves" that you never could, the only option, default to uninformed opinion. Occasionally, it offers a revelation to the establishment but more often it's complete bunk. Prove that your statements and views on Nietzsche as a proto-nazi are indeed correct and disprove even the Jewish scholars who have decided otherwise.
If Nietzsche's toes were cut off by the Nazis with the help of his sister
"to make the shoe fit" then it's more then repugnant to judge N guilty of being a proto-nazi as most will agree...except those with agendas.
Knowing how you feel about all atheists,
your real resentment of Nietzsche begins in what he so rightfully proclaimed in that famous/infamous phrase that "god is dead"...meaning the Christian god as a version of a Jewish preacher...a perverse collusion that should never have happened as the Jews themselves very well know having suffered its consequences long enough!
BTW, what's to prevent Kant from being considered a proto-nazi since they also used their distortion methodologies on him?
A more normal, commonsense view, which does not require any special wisdom to acknowledge, is this:
Rocco, like other fascists, vehemently opposed the liberal doctrine of individual rights and a limited government, and he correctly identified Kant as a major champion in that tradition. This doesn’t mean, of course, that some aspects of Kant’s philosophy, as reinterpreted and altered by later Kantians, did not find their way into fascist and Nazi philosophy.
But here we need to consider the crucial question: To what extent should a philosopher be held responsible for how later thinkers used his ideas, especially when those later interpretations differ radically from how the original philosopher understood his own system?
In truth, the philosophy of fascism and National Socialism was a patchwork, a stitching together of disparate ideas taken, frequently out of context, from whatever sources would lend credibility to their quest to justify a totalitarian state. With the possible exception of Martin Heidegger, who joined the Nazi Party in 1933, no philosophy written by a fascist was worth the paper it was written on. We should therefore exercise extreme caution before condemning Kant or any other philosopher as a forerunner of fascism and Nazism.
By comparison, your overt prejudice would gladly condemn any philosopher who has the temerity to state that GOD IS DEAD!
Nietzsche's writings with their psychological power, force one to reflect on the human condition, knowing that "reflection" by its very nature, does not impose agreement. Insights derived or seriously considered, are infinitely more valuable than a Last Judgement summary of human behavior or worse, a gratuitous forgiveness of sins by one who was crucified. These are obscenities forged into dogma. Along with your own ability to totally distort you have much in common with its totalitarian counterpart.
...having said all that -
because I wanted to - think and believe what you like. The Western World is in process of reexamining its own long history and reinterpreting some of its main philosophers, writers and artists...making much of what was once assumed less acceptable or no longer true. In short, a revaluation of values due to happen between long intervals.