How God could fail to convey His message?

[Immanuel Can]

Apparently God disagrees with you about that.

How do you know?

He said so: in Romans 1.

God says you're wrong about that too.

How do you know? You are not making any sense.

He said so: in Romans 1. You really should read that.

Atheist simply don't believe on God. There is noting to be skeptical about.

You just said it: they're skeptical of God. So they do have a belief. They believe God doesn't exist. They certainly don't know such a thing, so what else could it be but a belief on their part?

I am relaying on strong fact: There are more than 4000 religions. What is your fact that we should believe your God over another God?

Not a very strong fact. At one time, every human being on the planet thought the world was the centre of the universe. They were all wrong. The numbers game doesn't tell us anything.

Go and find Him. Meet Him yourself, and make up your mind. He promises, "You shall find me when you seek me with all your heart."

His words, not just mine.

[surreptitious57]

Atheists simply do not believe in God. There is nothing to be skeptical about

You just said it : they are skeptical of God. So they do have a belief. They believe God does not
exist. They certainly do not know such a thing so what else could it be but a belief on their part

I am an atheist but I do not believe God does not exist because belief is an article of faith. And faith requires nothing to validate it. And I do
not do either preferring logic and reason and evidence and proof to bare assertion. So instead I think God does not exist as there is precisely
zero evidence to support such a proposition. Whether he actually does or not is immaterial since it matters not to me either way. As if there
was any actual evidence or proof of his existence then I would acknowledge that and without question also. But I can not since there is none

[bahman]

Did you or did not you read My reply? I said God has failed to convey Its message, TO MOST PEOPLE.

So, NO God did NOT fail to convey Its message, to ALL people. What you are asking is like asking, Seriously, you accept that government failed to convey its message? that smoking tobacco and drinking to much alcohol is bad for you. Some people get the message, some just do not listen, others do not want to listen, these people just keep continuing on doing what they want to do instead.

The question is that God cannot fail to convey Its message to most of people considering the fact that It is the most powerful being. Do you believe that you are the one who received Its message correctly?

If you believe there is no God, of if you have a preconceived idea of what God is, then what type of ridiculous question is this?

Let us just cut to the chase. Do you believe there is no God?

If not, then this post is just trolling.

No matter what any one says about God, you will NOT accept anything other than what you already believe is true.

Am I right or not?

If you can provide some sort of truthful response that shows you are open to there being a God, then I will answer the rest of your questions. 'Open' also means that you have no preconceived idea of what God is.

Well, people believe in science and math because they are based on facts. God can also make itself evident so everybody believe it based on fact (talking with each individual).

[bahman]

God can make me believe what It is. I can even explain to you what I am so I cannot understand how God could fail.

I hope you stand up to what you just said here and explain that to Me accurately and succinctly.

Let us see if you actually can explain what you said you can here, or if you actually could and will fail.

I am a human being (a being like you), trying to find the truth (you understand that), I am a physicist (you know that),,...

[bahman]

Did you not listen to what I said in my repy?

Yes, I read.

I said Everything is God. Or it works both ways...God is Everything.

This is nonsense.

That includes the 4000 religions. All of which are Gods stories...In other words ..HIS STORY...where else do you think these religions have come from?

Either people made them or people were under influence spiritual beings, like Satan, etc.

Do you understand Nonduality... yes or no?

I have read about this.

I seriously can't believe you are being so dumb about this.

Thanks.

Humans make-up stories about religion.

That is a possibility.

You don't see animals lining up outside churches mosques or synagogs do you for goodness sake.

God is just another word for what's happening. Life is happening including everything that happens which is making up stories.

Well.

[bahman]

If not, then this post is just trolling.

I was thinking the exact same thing only today about bahman, then I read that you wrote this. Seems I'm not going mad after all.

I am not trolling.

[bahman]

If God chooses to do so, Do you believe that god has no choice in the matter?

So you think that God could wish to leave people in state of doubt at the same time being a believer meaning that you believe that God attempted to Guid you? Your view is not consistent at all.

Did you miss the part where I said that I believe that God will respect our wishes, or are you ignoring it.

I don't think that any human being wish to stay in state of ignorance.

[bahman]

Not a very strong fact. At one time, every human being on the planet thought the world was the centre of the universe. They were all wrong. The numbers game doesn't tell us anything.

It is strong fact. Believers agree on the fact that God speak to them. That is quite different story that you said. Take this example, killing your enemy is encouraged in Islam but it is forbidden in Christianity. The conflict in content between religions is very serious.

Go and find Him. Meet Him yourself, and make up your mind. He promises, "You shall find me when you seek me with all your heart."

His words, not just mine.

What this has to do with our discussion? Another religions claim different things. You are not type of a person who think all religions are wrong except yours?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Apparently God disagrees with you about that.

How do you know?

He said so: in Romans 1.
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You have no more warrant to suggest "GOD" said anything in Romans, than you have of saying that you yourself speak with the voice of GOD.
You do both, and they both make you look stupid.

[surreptitious57]

He said so : in Romans 1

No he most definitely did not say so. Instead someone else said that he said so since the
Bible was written by man and not by God. And given there is absolutely no evidence for
his existence any claims made about him by his believers can immediately be dismissed

[Immanuel Can]

The conflict in content between religions is very serious.

Oh, I agree entirely. Anyone who thinks all religions teach the same values knows nothing about religions. But this does not amount to any argument against a particular belief system.

There are many answers people can offer to the question "What is 2+2?" All but one of them is wrong. There are many ways people on this board imagine bahman to be: but there is only one real bahman. You see, this is a very ordinary principle that everybody knows.

Go and find Him. Meet Him yourself, and make up your mind. He promises, "You shall find me when you seek me with all your heart."

His words, not just mine.

What this has to do with our discussion? Another religions claim different things. You are not type of a person who think all religions are wrong except yours?

No. Many religions contain some elements of truth. Some are closer to the truth than others. The problem is that when truth is mixed with error, the result is always to some degree bad. The rightful goal of belief is to find the truth, not to celebrate errors.

Every religion believes that all the others are, to some degree, wrong. Take even something like Buddhism, some forms of which people find very "inclusive." Yet even Buddhism asserts that it is better to be a Buddhist than to take any of the other "paths." They are only acceptable, but not ideal. Only Buddhism is said to be really right, really truthful, and really telling us things the way they are. Everybody else is somewhat off base.

It's inevitable.

[Immanuel Can]

He said so : in Romans 1

No he most definitely did not say so.

Don't tell me. It's of no consequence what I think. Instead, you can tell Him when you see Him.

But I don't recommend that.

[surreptitious57]

Do not tell me. It is of no consequence what I think. Instead you can tell Him when you see Him

Given that he is supposedly omniscient then I do not have to tell him for he would already know

Though I would first want evidence of his actual existence which to date has been precisely zero

[attofishpi]

Though I would first want evidence of his actual existence which to date has been precisely zero

..and thus you shall remain since you haven't any faith at the outset.

[Immanuel Can]

Though I would first want evidence of his actual existence which to date has been precisely zero

I always find this claim completely inexplicable, except for an adamant refusal to see what's in front of one's eyes. Romans 1 covers this nicely too.