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Terrapin Station wrote:

Walker wrote:Why, I do think you're Relativists. Along with Duh.

It took you that long to realize that I'm a relativist?

You are a bit slow aren't you.

Lacewing wrote:

Walker wrote:Naw, one of your pesky brats have again vomited up

I don't have any.

Walker wrote:You can bet your twinkees

Don't talk about my twinkees.

Walker wrote:Janitors don't make the vomit, as you well know.

Janitors don't vomit? Don't try to blame your slimy mess on anyone else. It's yours that you fail to clean up. So you suck as a janitor too.

Walker wrote:By now you are aware of the default response to Dalekism.

No, because I normally step over and avoid your mess. Just felt like pointing it out to you today.

Walker wrote:Consider yourself defaulted.

If that means you're going to ignore me... HOORAH!!! Absolutely nothing lost whatsoever!

Good grief.

You've soiled your lace.

Walker wrote:

Terrapin Station wrote:

Walker wrote:Why, I do think you're Relativists. Along with Duh.

It took you that long to realize that I'm a relativist?

You are a bit slow aren't you.

You can just type notes to yourself in Word if you like.

Dubious wrote:I wonder what a being impervious to music - the most profound and abstract of all the arts - would be like...what would make it "feel" as if it actually possessed a soul.

Greta wrote:That would be deaf people, whose souls are no doubt like anyone else's Seriously, an advanced AI may be able to comprehend both the musical form and how it affects organisms in real time, but it may be impervious to music's charms like the rare person you come across who doesn't care much for music.

Deaf people respond to music in their own way. Their feeling apparatus is not impaired only the means by which they sense. Providing they have the talent they can also obviously create music which many of us are grateful to hear. But music is not just a matter of hearing; it's also a way of an organic sensing, inflecting and philosophizing which goes far beyond any mere AI calculation of such.

http://www.washington.edu/news/2001/11/ ... ear-music/

Dubious wrote:Or will only synthetics be used to temporarily create one. Perhaps the time is ripe to inquire now if everything on the planet, itself included, is doomed to become a commodity and would this morphed creature be ready to inflict the same fate on other planets if capable.

Greta wrote: I'm thinking that, just as animals pass on an informational version of themselves when they reproduce, I think the Earth is creating informational versions of itself which may reproduce on other worlds once the growing Sun makes liquid water on the Earth's surface impossible.

Not certain if I understand this. Based on the astronomical and geological data on how Earth was created, 'creating informational versions of itself which may reproduce' is something I can't fathom. By what method could this happen? Are you referring to terraforming other planets by earth remnants possibly landing on them incorporating that info within its native environment?

Dubious wrote: Deaf people respond to music in their own way.

Yes, they tend to completely ignore it.

Harbal wrote:

Dubious wrote: Deaf people respond to music in their own way.

Yes, they tend to completely ignore it.

...as do some people who can actually hear O Master of Fly Droppings.

Dubious wrote:

Harbal wrote:

Dubious wrote: Deaf people respond to music in their own way.

Yes, they tend to completely ignore it.

...as do some people who can actually hear

Not me, I respond very positively to music. Ramble on, Dubious, ramble on.

Harbal wrote:Not me, I respond very positively to music.

Good on you! But why would I need to know this?

Harbal wrote:Ramble on, Dubious, ramble on.

Thank you! I appreciate your permission to ramble on but would appreciate even more if you just rambled off.

Dubious wrote: Good on you! But why would I need to know this?

It's not a question of you needing to know it, it's a question of me wanting you to know it. I don't give a fuck what you need.

but would appreciate even more if you just rambled off.

I'm a free spirit, I'll ramble where I will.

Dubious wrote:Good on you! But why would I need to know this?

Harbal wrote:It's not a question of you needing to know it, it's a question of me wanting you to know it.

Knowing what? That you respond very positively to music? Very nice. Now that you dropped your load, feel free to fly away.

Harbal wrote:I don't give a fuck what you need.

Not necessary to point out the obvious. All I wanted was the possibility of an intelligent conversation. But instead, you showed up.

Harbal wrote:I'm a free spirit, I'll ramble where I will.

So am I. Why don't we just ramble in opposite directions. Your weren't invited to this ramble fest in the first place.

Dubious wrote:All I wanted was the possibility of an intelligent conversation.

Ah yes, we all want things.

Dubious to Harbal wrote:Your weren't invited to this ramble fest in the first place.

Is this ramble fest by invitation only? I had no idea! Oh my god... now I'm so embarrassed to have "jumped in" so many times without a proper invitation. Did everybody else get invitations? Maybe mine got lost in the mail.

Lacewing wrote:

Dubious wrote:All I wanted was the possibility of an intelligent conversation.

Ah yes, we all want things.

Dubious to Harbal wrote:Your weren't invited to this ramble fest in the first place.

Is this ramble fest by invitation only? I had no idea! Oh my god... now I'm so embarrassed to have "jumped in" so many times without a proper invitation. Did everybody else get invitations? Maybe mine got lost in the mail.

I'll send you one if you really insist on being part of it. Why you would want to I have no idea.

Dubious wrote: So am I. Why don't we just ramble in opposite directions. Your weren't invited to this ramble fest in the first place.

Your talking like someone who's dazed and confused, Dubious, but thank you anyway.

Harbal wrote:

Dubious wrote: Deaf people respond to music in their own way.

Yes, they tend to completely ignore it.

I think the important thing to remember here is that the song remains the same, regardless of whether someone hears it or not.

Harbal wrote:

Dubious wrote: So am I. Why don't we just ramble in opposite directions. Your weren't invited to this ramble fest in the first place.

Your talking like someone who's dazed and confused, Dubious, but thank you anyway.

...if you like to think so. I would have expected more wit in your replies since you're so adept in applying it to everyone else.