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Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:40 pm
by thedoc
manden wrote:thedoc wrote:manden wrote:All has a cause is human logic . About an unimaginable superior logic ( that of the creator) we can say nothing !
It might be possible to assert that God's logic is different than human logic, but there is no evidence that it is superior.
Think about it ! You also have a brain .
Ahh, you're playing Peacegirl again, you can't explain it so you demand that others figure out for themselves what you do not understand. If your posts are examples of your thinking, then you have serious difficulties with your cognitive abilities.
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:54 pm
by manden
Gary Childress wrote:
How do you recognize the real creator of the universe at his creation? My understanding is that you believe there is a God because you think "all must have a cause". But you actually don't believe all must have a cause. You believe that at least one (God) does not have a cause. If God does not have a cause, then it must NOT be the case that "all has a cause". You've invalidated your own reason for believing in God.
If you want to know how to recognize the true God , read my topic : For People who want to come nearer to the true God .
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:06 pm
by Gary Childress
manden wrote:Gary Childress wrote:
How do you recognize the real creator of the universe at his creation? My understanding is that you believe there is a God because you think "all must have a cause". But you actually don't believe all must have a cause. You believe that at least one (God) does not have a cause. If God does not have a cause, then it must NOT be the case that "all has a cause". You've invalidated your own reason for believing in God.
If you want to know how to recognize the true God , read my topic : For People who want to come nearer to the true God .
Manden, how can we know or recognize the "true God" when we clearly don't even know for sure if there is a God or not?
Living in "harmony with others" or being "honest with ourselves" doesn't seem to me to involve running around positing that there is a "true God" when we don't know such things. In fact running around getting in other people's faces and telling them they don't understand the "true" God seems like a pretty good recipe for disharmony to me.
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:11 pm
by manden
I can only say what is to do - if you do it , is your decision .
That it can be sucessfull , I know !
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:12 pm
by Gary Childress
manden wrote:I can only say what is to do - if you do it , is your decision .
That it can be sucessfull , I know !
Successful at what, creating disharmony and fooling oneself into believing things one doesn't know with any certainty?
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:14 pm
by Gary Childress
Let's narrow down the question a bit:
Manden, what are you "successful" at?
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:17 pm
by manden
How often : I could recognize the existence of the real creator of the universe .
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:20 pm
by Gary Childress
manden wrote:How often : I could recognize the existence of the real creator of the universe .
How do you recognize the existence of the creator of the universe?
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:25 pm
by manden
look my topic : For people who want to come nearer to the true God
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:37 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
manden wrote:All has a cause is human logic . About an unimaginable superior logic ( that of the creator) we can say nothing !
Is English not your first language?
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:00 pm
by manden
German
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:02 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
manden wrote:German
Catholic or Protestant?
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:03 pm
by manden
creator orientation
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:09 pm
by thedoc
manden wrote:creator orientation
What can you tell us about your beliefs?
Re: The Creatororientation
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:10 pm
by thedoc
manden wrote:German
That is why I could figure out what you are trying to say.