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I'm uncertain about the set of opinions part. And the certain way of thinking part is hard to describe without being misunderstood.

Jaded Sage wrote:I'm uncertain about the set of opinions part. And the certain way of thinking part is hard to describe without being misunderstood.

Well dah.
It's because you are wrong - even by your own terms.

How do you figure?

Jaded Sage wrote:How do you figure?

You have been unwise enough to make assertions without any supporting arguments.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:You have been unwise enough to make assertions without any supporting arguments.

How is that on my own terms? I consider it generosity, btw. When I come up with something, I'll share it.

"It's more than just accuracy."

Seems me, being wise is all about being accurate...accurate in observation, accurate in assessment, accurate in conclusion.

Mebbe 'wisdom' (as you see it) isn't about fidelity of process but just about presentation, in which case 'wisdom' is just glibness wearing sage's robes, and is useless.

henry quirk wrote:"It's more than just accuracy."

Seems me, being wise is all about being accurate...accurate in observation, accurate in assessment, accurate in conclusion.

Mebbe 'wisdom' (as you see it) isn't about fidelity of process but just about presentation, in which case 'wisdom' is just glibness wearing sage's robes, and is useless.

Are you just guessing randomly? Where did you get that from? Again, accuracy seems to be more like "educated" than "wise."

"Are you just guessing randomly?"

Nope.

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"Where did you get that from?"

From my own head.

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'Again, accuracy seems to be more like "educated" than "wise."'

Then offer up an alternate definition.

henry quirk wrote:"Are you just guessing randomly?"

Nope.

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"Where did you get that from?"

From my own head.

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'Again, accuracy seems to be more like "educated" than "wise."'

Then offer up an alternate definition.

Lol, yeah, so not from anything I said. That's another way to say random guess.

Clearly you didn't read what I already said. I'm working on it. All I know is that it's a certain way of thinking.

" so not from anything I said."

Of course not...you haven't really said anything for me to play off of.

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"That's another way to say random guess."

Nope. I gave a considered and, I think, accurate definition for wisdom...nuthin' random or guessy about it.

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"Clearly you didn't read what I already said."

I did, and what I came away with is 'I'm working on it. All I know is that it's a certain way of thinking' which is nuthin' piled atop nuthin'.

That's not what I was talking about. Nevermind.

What I've given so far is a correction.

henry quirk wrote:"It's more than just accuracy."

Seems me, being wise is all about being accurate...accurate in observation, accurate in assessment, accurate in conclusion.

Mebbe 'wisdom' (as you see it) isn't about fidelity of process but just about presentation, in which case 'wisdom' is just glibness wearing sage's robes, and is useless.

Wisdom is knowing that accuracy is not the answer

Then offer up an alternate definition.

Henry, nevermind. You're being difficult.

Hobbes, I think you're having trouble with the word "is."

Greta wrote: "This has been happening with me quite often."

Of course. A common problem in philosophy forums. The fools! Why can't they understand!!?

When I wrote it I was thinking of Richard Dawkins reading his hate main from a gaggle of fundamentalist Christians

O, I am not absolutely positive I meant it in this sense. We're not all always on the same side of the relationship sign. Although common polite behavior does make us behave and say things about each other as we were.

Greta wrote: I was thinking of Richard Dawkins reading his hate mail from a gaggle of fundamentalist Christians

Ah. FCs. I actually met one on a forum once, who was able to write without any errors. Quite a freak of nature.

And I like your choice of "gaggle". They gag you, and they do have a distinctly goose-like quality to themselves. Whereas we, atheists are a "school of atheists", or "an academy of atheists", or an "obviously-smarter-than-a-stupid-fundamentalist of atheists". Fundamentalists have the right to their claim of righteousness; we have the right to our claim of being right.