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No difficulty in seeing the virtue of courage but the virtue of self-control is called temperance has more of the nature of harmony and symphony is the ordering or controlling of pleasures and desires; 'master of self'; but master is also the slave and the slave the master; all in the same person.

Then there is a better and a worse principle; in the same person the better has the worse under control, the person is said to be master of self; but when the better principle, is overwhelmed by the worse principle is called the slave of unprincipled self.

The virtue of temperance 'self-mastery' truly expresses the rule of the good over the bad, the meaner desires are held down by the virtuous desires and wisdom. The master of may claim such a name called temperance.

Barbara Brooks wrote: No difficulty in seeing the virtue of courage but the virtue of self-control is called temperance has more of the nature of harmony and symphony is the ordering or controlling of pleasures and desires; 'master of self'; but master is also the slave and the slave the master; all in the same person.

typical dualistic crap.

Yes, retard, because master and slave are one and the same, as needy forever incomplete organisms.
Nothing/Something, imbecile, one and the same, as both describe a thing which is absent, one affirming it and the other annulling it - both presupposing it.

Retard there is no #1, as there is no 0. These linguistic prejudices are founded on human binary logic.
There is only process. a action, a movement towards.

Their true antithesis is indifference, moron, as it is an indication of power and independence.
Given that no absolute state is possible, then indifference is also a matter of degree.
I am indifferent to that which has no affect no me and so I do not care for it or need it.
I can do with it as easily as I can do without it.

Barbara Brooks wrote: Then there is a better and a worse principle; in the same person the better has the worse under control, the person is said to be master of self; but when the better principle, is overwhelmed by the worse principle is called the slave of unprincipled self.

Better/Worse by what standard, you imbecile, who pretends to be a "philosopher"?

The correct answer, moron, is better or worse for YOU, making your declarations of selflessness and love and humanitarian principles a farce only the morons you aspire to attract and to gain favor with, would fall for.

The us is only relevant when there are common interests.
No magic or mystical force or selflessness, you pathetic twit....pure selfishness using an indirect method.

All acts are acts of self, manifestations of self - ego, and so they are always selfish.
Even a mother sacrificing herself for her young is acting selfishly, for her own benefit because her sense of self includes the offspring - the madness of instinctive programming.

This is manipulated by minds better than yours, to make you dolts associate self as something outside you, with an Ideal or a nation or some other abstraction.
this is felt as a relief since it unburdens the mind of responsibility and distracts it from its solitude.
Then you can create morons, like you and your kids, that go off to sacrifice themselves for an ambiguous Ideal they do not understand....like a god or a tribe.

The easiest way to do this, imbecile, is to infect these immature minds when their sense of self has yet to fully develop - to whatever extent it can develop - retarding and subverting it, using morality and indoctrination and shame to guide it towards total compliance and association with the abstraction.
Then this mind having no other identity grabs onto the one that is offered, and it can kill and die for it, like a dumb animal.

Barbara Brooks wrote:The virtue of temperance 'self-mastery' truly expresses the rule of the good over the bad, the meaner desires are held down by the virtuous desires and wisdom. The master of may claim such a name called temperance.

Retard, your usage of the terms 'good/bad" only exposes you as a simpleton.

What arbitrary, emotional and self-serving terms you use to hide how selfish and hypocritical you are.

Virtues, imbecile, are cultural constructs based on a common ideal.
My ideals are other than yours.

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Empirical philosopher Kant supposedly disliked women too he never married but he had a female maid to care for his needs. Aristotle even believed women were inferior and men superior, Kant would not associate with woman.

Hegel had a different thought believed women were divine and men human., Socrates thought women were equal to men.

thought, “fortune is a woman, Nicolo Machiavelli wrote and ”if you wish to keep her under it is necessary to beat and ill-use her; and it is seen that she allows herself to be mastered by the adventurous rather than by those who go to work more coldly. She is, therefore, always, woman-like, a lover of young men, because they are less cautious, more violent, and with more audacity command her.”

Herodotus, and Homer acknowledge women were a commodity, a prize; Even the in the very first pages of history, Herodotus wrote the Egyptian king’s daughter was abducted by a Persian merchant. When finally she was returned her father would not take her back because the value of her had declined.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Empirical philosopher Kant supposedly disliked women too he never married but he had a female maid to care for his needs. Aristotle even believed women were inferior and men superior, Kant would not associate with woman.

Simpleton, who said I had not been married and did not like women?
Once more you are trying to use an emotinoal argument to hide your lack of reasoning skills.

My problem is when women try to pretend they are what they are not, or come to these places challenging male mnids, like going to a gym and challenging men to a weight-lifting competition.
You can't compete, babes, and even the ideas and ideals you use are male ideas and ideals - they've been given to you.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Hegel had a different thought believed women were divine and men human., Socrates thought women were equal to men.

He did?
Show me the quote.
The Hellenes, in general, knew that females were inferior to males in thinking and abstracting and reasoning.

You forgot Nietzsche and Schopenhauer in your attempt o show how well-read you are.

Barbara Brooks wrote:thought, “fortune is a woman, Nicolo Machiavelli wrote and ”if you wish to keep her under it is necessary to beat and ill-use her; and it is seen that she allows herself to be mastered by the adventurous rather than by those who go to work more coldly. She is, therefore, always, woman-like, a lover of young men, because they are less cautious, more violent, and with more audacity command her.”

Name dropping again, simpleton?

Barbara Brooks wrote: Herodotus, and Homer acknowledge women were a commodity, a prize; Even the in the very first pages of history, Herodotus wrote the Egyptian king’s daughter was abducted by a Persian merchant. When finally she was returned her father would not take her back because the value of her had declined.

amongst females, and because they are so dependent on males for thinking above a certain level, intelligence is often confused for knowledge...thusly creating the absurdity that education will heal all the world's woes - unless one uses the term education more honestly, as a trainnig tool and an indoctrination method - and so amongst females and effeminate males, the tactic of using other thinkers to fill in the void in their own mind and the strategy of name dropping and referencing to compensate for their poor judgment, is common.

It is quite effective when dealing with females and adolescent mnids, in general, to invoke authorities or famous people in general, - cultural icon - to bolster an argument or simply to take on the air of a sophisticated intellect, yet when this referencing, quoting, regurgitating, isn't accompanied with substance, personal insights, that proves that the mind has done some thinking on its own, besides adopting another's thinking as its own, then the quality of the mind is made clear.


I think being a parrot is what females do best.
So squawk away, you dumb bitch.

Your heart is turned to unkind through some corrupting influence you had you have lost the memory of holy things, which once were.

There was a time beauty shining in brightness philosophers followed in the train of Zeus, beheld the beatific vision and most blessed in our state of innocence, before any experience of evils to come, innocent and simply calm and happy,

Those who become corrupted do not easily rise out of this world to the sight of true beauty look only at her earthly namesake, and instead of being awed at the sight is given over to mocking, and like a brutish beast rushes in to enjoy and beget; consorts with dissolution, and are not afraid or ashamed of pursuing pleasure in corruption.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Your heart is turned to unkind through some corrupting influence you had you have lost the memory of holy things, which once were.

"Holy things"? A duo of myth.
No sanctity, outside human conception, no things outside human conception, you dumb ditz.

Can you even pretend to be objective, you subjective emotional twit, or have you decided to drop the pretenses and rely on faith?

What is more primal than the ego, dimwit?

Barbara Brooks wrote:There was a time beauty shining in brightness philosophers followed in the train of Zeus, beheld the beatific vision and most blessed in our state of innocence, before any experience of evils to come, innocent and simply calm and happy,

"Innocence"?
Another word exposing your stupidity.
Life feeds on life, you naive dolt, and so the living depend on the misery and death of the living...no innocence moron...this is the primordial sin imbeciles like you try to escape because they cannot accept it and integrate it into their childish ideals.

No evil no good, you pathetic female. Those are subjective terms....where is that reasoning you speak of like it was some given?

Innocence, you moron, often describes the ignorant.
The "innocent" victims of 9/11, for example were only stupid fucks, who were ignorant that they were participating in a mechanism of exploiting foreign peoples, and that they were naive enough to be ignorant about how their envied lifestyle was dependent on the misery of others and on excess.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Those who become corrupted do not easily rise out of this world to the sight of true beauty look only at her earthly namesake, and instead of being awed at the sight is given over to mocking, and like a brutish beast rushes in to enjoy and beget; consorts with dissolution, and are not afraid or ashamed of pursuing pleasure in corruption.

Corruption?
What is more corruptive than a moron preaching ideals of assimilation and uniformity, then claiming the label of "individuality", you stupid ****?

You imply oneness and then pretend you are talking about multiplicity, which is where beauty is found, you imbecile. A damn hypocrite, you are, coming in with messages of salvation. Messages you read in a book.

Turd, endurance is strength...and beauty is found in that.
That's what attracts us to beauty...it is a manifestation of strength and the symmetry derived from resisting entropy.

It isn't magical, turd, not skin-deep.

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The idea of good is. If everyone pursued virtue and make it, their end of all actions, they would shine with radiant intelligence.

The true philosopher is an impersonator of truth. Whenever anyone says they know all the arts and know more then anyone else, they are unable to see truth. Truth is the appendage by which I learn. Truth is the highest part of the mind where pasturage is found nourished with truth.

Barbara Brooks wrote:The idea of good is. If everyone pursued virtue and make it, their end of all actions, they would shine with radiant intelligence.

How precious if not totally nonsesical.
You twist words into webs of sophistry.

Moron, intelligence, the term you conveniently neglect to define, evolves in reaction to challenges.
A muscle atrophies when not stressed, and so does a mind.
You would call these challenges 'evil' because you posses a Judeo-Christian mindset, as it is normal for a female mind to give into whatever idea/ideal is presented to her in her immediate cultural surroundings or to be attracted to what she deduces to be more powerful than her - to authority.

Virtue, imbecile, is not a transcendental concept, it is a cultural one, and so you uncover how tied up to common rules and morals and ideals you are.
A mule harnessed to a cart.

Your values are not mine, and so what you consider virtuous is not what I consider virtuous, you dumb ****.

Barbara Brooks wrote:The true philosopher is an impersonator of truth. Whenever anyone says they know all the arts and know more then anyone else, they are unable to see truth. Truth is the appendage by which I learn. Truth is the highest part of the mind where pasturage is found nourished with truth.

No retard, truth is an interpretation of the real; a perspective that may be more or less accurate.

Its accuracy determines your successes and failures, moron, as reality is unconcerned about your interpretations and your principles and your virtues.

You are indeed an imeprsonator.
All you have to say is:
"Come let us join hands...we are all one"

The siren's call of uniformity, manipulating fear and offering hope as its escape.

Imbecile growth, evolution, natural selection works on challenges, stress, conflict, opposition.
You offer comforting nihilism to escape the cost of existing.

A dumb cowardly cow.

Like any other knowledge is, philosophy must be taught to learn. Learning chases out ignorance all those matters of opinion are driven out and the mind is filled with thinking. Knowledge lodged in the philosopher’s heart, which not so far from the heaven of happiness.

To labor anything into something has positive significance and purpose. Labor is the chain that keeps purpose in bondage from which they cannot sway away.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Like any other knowledge is, philosophy must be taught to learn. Learning chases out ignorance all those matters of opinion are driven out and the mind is filled with thinking. Knowledge lodged in the philosopher’s heart, which not so far from the heaven of happiness.

Cowardly cow, a philosopher is interested in reality, no matter how distressful it may be.
A thinker thinks with his mind not his heart, you female dunce.

You are no thinker, you are an emoter. A dumb animal.

Barbara Brooks wrote:To labor anything into something has positive significance and purpose. Labor is the chain that keeps purpose in bondage from which they cannot sway away.

Labor is ceaseless, moron, as survival entails constant vigilance against the alien, discrimination, intolerance, resistance, rejection, violence.

It is only the tired and afraid that offer themselves up as fodder and accept assimilation because it relieves them of their burden. You are a submissive life-hating nihilistic bitch.
Hope and your semantic clouds are how you hide it. you offer annulment of self, offering some vague idealized greater SELF...like Christians offer an alternate reality, a more real reality, an afterlife.

Humanitarianism, coward, is how the Christian ideals are integrated into secular contexts. you are so afraid that you are willing to lie to yourself, so that your self-interests are masked with odes to beauty and the usual modern cultural tripe.

Now you are boring me dunce.
You turned out to be less than I expected.
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Philosophers must aim at the true nature of beauty, grace; and good in everything flows like a gentle wind from a purer region into reason.

That is why musical training is a most effective instrument into the mind of a philosopher, because rhythm and harmony find their way imparting grace. Socrates believed music is just as learning to read, we cannot perceive them as unimportant, but to be everywhere eager to make them known. Only when we know the letters exactly can we ever become musical and know the essential forms of temperance, courage, liberality, magnificence, and their kindred when a beautiful mind harmonizes with the fairest of sights to the philosopher who has an eye to see it. The fairest is also the loveliest and philosophers have that spirit of harmony is in love with the loveliest.

Temperance runs through all the notes of the scale, and produces a harmony in original form and does the utmost to maintain this harmony intact. In harmony we gain the habit of good order, then with this habit of good order we will accompany them in all their actions and be a principle of growth to them, and if there be any fallen places will raise them up again and then education starts. When modes of music change, the fundamental laws of the people always change with them.

To make a society virtuous is justice, No doubt justice is somewhere here: I must struggle to catch sight of it, if you see it first, let me know, I don’t want it to tiptoe away to flee out of sight. Justice is mystifying; I go about looking for it when it is in my own hands therefore I fail to recognize it.

Now a tyrant believes justice is the interest of physical strength and that doing wrong is more profitable to them and stronger than being just. But justice imparts harmony and friendship, whereas injustice clearly creates division, hatred and fighting. Justice is more precious than many pieces of gold; its perfection there is nothing else, it takes means to an end; and does not aim at excess.

The only good which remains in the society is justice when, temperance, courage and wisdom are all gone out justice remains as the ultimate cause of virtue.

The claims I make here are not new ideas; there is nothing new under the sun. What I do declare is not for the casual learner but I do for philosophers who follow the maxim that friends have all things in common.

Philosophers are like a flower who have proper nurturing grow and mature but if planted in poor soil become the most noxious weeds unless preserved by God.

Those who are curious to learn never satisfied are justly called philosophers. Philosophy as any other knowledge must chase out ignorance, all those opinions driven out to fill mind with knowledge.

Many think philosophy is useless and maybe they’re right, but blame the uselessness to the fault of those who will not use them, not to philosophy the noblest pursuit of all. Philosophers are like the good farmers nurturing and cultivating the gentle qualities of wisdom.

Those skeptics who prevent philosophy from growing; but there is a perfection, which all philosophers ought to reach and not to fall short. Those who endure to the end and have done well will carry off the prize.

The same cases of runners who run well from the start but not back again. The true runner comes to the finish receives the crown.

A philosopher a lover of truth loathes a lie, is wholly directed toward truth cares less for fame and fortune.


What is Truth, but clear and distinct examination by means of exercising reason, which is the ultimate absolute truth, and reason prevents rhetoric. Skillfully disposed in mind is reason exercising neither rhetoric nor the embellishment of poets?

Truth is akin to wisdom found where the highest of minds resides, where the wings on which soar above beyond opinion perception. Truth essential principle embraces nothing less than the entire system of mind, in such, truth is set forth not as abstract, but as actuality.

Writing is a mere opinion and if I ask any of my word a question, solemn silence. Words written down are tumbled about anywhere among those who may or may not understand them and maltreat them, abuse them, because words have no kin to protect them. Using words is skill a talent one must have a good idea of words and then have experience of speaking, teaching, or writing.

Truth is tested by the senses. We mortal beings have a beginning and end but mind cans neither be destroyed nor begotten. Therefore, we must quit the senses in order to behold truth. Unfortunately, we cannot but we can make the nearest approach when we are not bothered with bodily feelings.

The tragic poet is an imitator, and, like all other imitators, is thrice removed from truth. Thinking is best when mind and none of worldly things in life trouble it; neither sound, nor sights, nor pain, nor pleasure thinking aspires after truth.
The pleasure of knowing truth is philosophy's pursuit ever learning not so far from heaven the sweetness of learning and truth.

Barbara Brooks wrote:... nor the embellishment of poets?

Unless it was the 'rhetoric' of the time otherwise why? As, for me, its the language of politics and art not philosophy but ya gotta love the mad German but the rest were paid by the word.