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Apologies, I was not being a pedant about the words used, just that the colouration change is not used at all as protection. If it has any purpose its not to 'blend-in', more likely its warning displays for sex and territority but I'm guessing.

Curiosity alone does not make a philosopher, you will find many who have the name but they have only the sense of it but not philosophy and if led to the true knowledge of philosophy are unable to follow. They put the copy in the place of the authentic.

Philosophy is not found anywhere in the field of skewed views, not a matter of clever turns or allusiveness utterances but knowledge, unambiguous, meaningful, and purposeful expressions. Knowing or distinguishing from error is properly is called science. What is great and what is small arises from the distinction of the visible and the intelligible. What is great and what is small arises when there is some contradiction and one is the reverse of one and involves the conception of plurality, then thought begins to be aroused within, and mind is perplexed and wanting to arrive at a decision asks what is the absolute unity of great and small?

Barbara Brooks wrote:...or allusiveness utterances but knowledge, unambiguous, meaningful, and purposeful expressions. ...

Hmm! Your language could be consider as such at times BB? Whilst I think I now understand your intial statement that you will attempt to not state a knowingly untrue utterance. Given the modern idiom your words could be considered at the least allusive and ambiguous?
a_uk

Sorry UK you think that, I try hard to tell the truth as clear as posible.

A philosopher is a lover of truth will never intentionally lie, which philosophers loath; they love truth wholly directed toward.


The undying and absolute truth there is nothing that assures us what we see is truth, excepting a clear and distinct examination. It is forever happening that something that is conceived clearly and distinctly could be false.


Knowing gives, certainty by its means of exercising reason is the ultimate and absolute truth of consciousness and prevents rhetoric. Skillfully disposed in mind is purpose not fancy rhetoric, or embellishment of the best poets.


Truth akin to wisdom is found where the highest of minds resides, where the wings on which soar above all opinion beyond perception. Truth is the essential principle that embraces nothing less than the entire system of consciousness and in such truth is set forth not as abstract, but reality.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Sorry UK you think that, I try hard to tell the truth as clear as posible.

And for that I understand that it may be my understanding that is at fault.
a_uk

Perhaps it would be a more accurate statement, rather than claiming to speak some sort of nebulous "truth", to relate that you speak 'honestly', 'sincerely', as do I.
A claim to speak the truth is entirely different than a claim to honesty.
One claims the truth (as truth for all) and the other claims 'your' truth, that which appears true to you, at the moment, related honestly and sincerely.

Ultimately, everyone speaks 'truth' (honestly or dishonestly).

This only applies if you think there is no real world to which words apply as names. What is your difference between 'honesty' and 'truth'?

Arising_uk wrote:This only applies if you think there is no real world to which words apply as names.

"A word is not a crystal, transparent and unchanged; it is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in color and content according to the circumstances and time in which it is used." -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

The world that you and I (uniquely) perceive is (a feature of) the 'real world', just not all of it.

What is your difference between 'honesty' and 'truth'?

'Honesty' can be considered to be speaking sincerely, accurately portraying that which is perceived.
Not 'falsifying'...
A pretty commonly, consensually understood concept.

'Truth', on the other hand, has a plethora of meanings (all true and valid!) and hues and colors and egoic/emotional baggage... is a nebulous term at best, and usually best avoided as too 'occluded' to be meaningful in a conversation other than with a child who conflates 'truth' and 'honesty' (learn't it from parents).
There's the nutshell version, anyway. (Off topic!)
The clearer the terminology, the more accurate, the better the chances of a clear communication, even with 'oneself'.
Clarity of terminology is found in the vicinity of clarity of thought. Vague and nebulous terminology displays vague and confused thinking.

Little things elaborated how absurd!

For example Descartes' study of nature of being he believed that being and thought are inherently the same; they have not arrived at the thought that being, pure being, is not a concrete actual reality, but pure abstraction, and conversely that pure thought, self-identity or inner essence, is partly the negative of self-consciousness, and consequently is being, and partly, being immediate simple entity, is like wise nothing else than being. Thinghood, thought is thinghood.

Two specifically distinct modes of thinking both ways of considering merge into one united in the object with which these modes of treatment deal. The unmoved unity as the empty shell of pure being, that is no longer actual thought, has no more life within it, for being all the content. The shifting change is actual reality the concrete consciousness of pure ability to see clearly and intuitively.

For pure insight is the second moment, it is objective being, or being for other. Insight unfold and make explicit expression for something else, as it is in itself: the indivisible unity of being-for-self being for other is merely the restless shifting change of those moments as abstract moment, appearing on one side over against the other.

This metaphysical principle appears at the supreme point of view, the next step will be for thoughts to collide and collapse together and for enlightenment to experience the fruits of its deeds.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Little things elaborated how absurd!
This metaphysical principle appears at the supreme point of view, the next step will be for thoughts to collide and collapse together and for enlightenment to experience the fruits of its deeds.

The next step will be for thoughts to collide and collapse together and, thus, be one with the metaphysical principle. Deeds grow strong in the reeds which moist soil feeds. Enlightenment is open to all who are willing to experience the fruit that, in reality, is no fruit but dingleberries hanging from the ass hairs growing on my poorly wiped backside.

Truth is akin to wisdom found where the highest of minds resides, soar above all opinion beyond perception. Truth is the essential principle that embraces nothing less than the entire system of consciousness and in such truth is set forth not as abstract, but as reality.

Barbara Brooks wrote:Truth is akin to wisdom found where the highest of minds resides, soar above all opinion beyond perception. Truth is the essential principle that embraces nothing less than the entire system of consciousness and in such truth is set forth not as abstract, but as reality.

Truth is akin to the essential principle found where the highest of minds resides.
Truth is akin to reality found where the entire system of consciousness resides.
The essential principle is akin to wisdom found where the highest of truths resides.
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There is not anything 'beyond' perception.
For something to (be perceived to) exist, it must be perceived.
Perception is existence.

Philosophy draws the mind towards truth and even now as disregarded as philosophy is today, it very likely some day may emerge into light again. Mind is a one-sided examination that results only pure nothingness, and that this nothing is a determinate nothing, and cannot advance from this step ever. Thus, this infinite idea has absolute negativity. Then mind is the disproportion between the concept and the reality, it is a shadow, a show, or illusion of being. In the full truth the liberation is altogether fixed and alludes to vanity

Vanity is in opposition to truth. Socrates said, be a servant of the best, because every one had better be ruled by divine wisdom dwelling within self; so that that we all may be, as far as possible, under the same rule, friends and equals.