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So in love with this song. Great falsetto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD8TApX3btM
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Hillbilly version of The Trooper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li58voy6xXM
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That was ruddy awesome^^^ they should do a bluegrass tribute band, they should at least have a music contract, very talented.

Here's the original version of The Trooper by Iron Maiden for comparison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbT2lHtYtEQ
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Back to the softer side.

Not long after Dali's death, this tribute song came out. Quite a big hit in Spain and Latin America:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkFGCgb-u7A
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Since you are here Conde how do you feel about Westerners doing songs about South America?

For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pey29CLID3I

Simon and Grafunkle: El Condor Pasa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS_bN5ECJTI

Sting: They Dance Alone (Cueca Solo)

I am sure you know the politics of Chile so I wont bore you.

I mean I am not sure that South Americans or even European Spanish and Portuguese write songs about other countries politics, or based on their culture, maybe they do, but not with the same sort of regularity I would guess. Perhaps it's a sort of white men's burden thing those who did would like to apologise, or to forget, but it seems a common thing in the West which I know colonial South America is part of but you get the point.
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some sort of barbie and friends sing along, as i am trying to do a bunch of paperwork

the house is overrun with kids for the summer. a lot of people are like "Oh, you have a farm? i will send kids over for the summer, will save loads on summer camps"

but i have several little boys and girls who agreed on what they want to lsiten to, however horrible it might be to adult ears

barbie sing along? little boys? i am sure this bunch will grow up to be gay
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Put some Metallica on maybe, then tell the little lovelies if they don't pipe down a bit it's staying on all day. If nothing else it might solve the gayness issue. j/k

I recommend Enter Sandman before they go to bed to, I don't really just kidding. Although... ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384
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Blaggard wrote:Put some Metallica on maybe, then tell the little lovelies if they don't pipe down a bit it's staying on all day. If nothing else it might solve the gayness issue. j/k
there is nothing to solve in the gayness issue

its just that normally when you watch little boys and girls play together you see some conflict - and hopefully conflict resolution - stemming from different styles of play

but i did not see that - these boys play (and throw) like girls

not an issue in this house, if boys want to play dressup with girls and prance around in princess dresses no one is going to stop them - is a little unusual, that is all
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Blaggard wrote:Since you are here Conde how do you feel about Westerners doing songs about South America?

For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pey29CLID3I

Simon and Grafunkle: El Condor Pasa
Not only in music, but in all cultural manifestations in general, I welcome diversity. The loans from one form of expression to another and between local cultures is actually the best way to inspire creativity and enrich human experience. What I don't appreciate much is the easy path of stereotypes and clichés, which make cultural experience very poor. Spain is not only Andalucía and Flamenco is not the only Spanish music. The other day I laughed at a Spielberg movie, where Costa Ricans were portrayed as Mexican peasants and listened to mariachis.

Now, about the Simon and Garfunkel song. I have always liked their work, some of their songs are among my favorites, but this song in particular didn't come out that well. Perhaps I'm too used to listening to the instrumental Peruvian piece, which is perfectly beautiful as it is, so that the added voices really don't seem to fit. But I'm sure they did it with all due respect.
Blaggard wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS_bN5ECJTI

Sting: They Dance Alone (Cueca Solo)

I am sure you know the politics of Chile so I wont bore you.

I mean I am not sure that South Americans or even European Spanish and Portuguese write songs about other countries politics, or based on their culture, maybe they do, but not with the same sort of regularity I would guess. Perhaps it's a sort of white men's burden thing those who did would like to apologise, or to forget, but it seems a common thing in the West which I know colonial South America is part of but you get the point.
The man in the video at 3:30 is Rubén Blades, a fellow countryman and a household name across Latin America. He's kind of our Bruce Springsteen or Bob Dylan. Along with Fania All Stars, where he came from musically, he took Salsa genre to the next level, experimenting with almost every rhythm and popular style from the Caribbean. His songs had a lot of social and political content, a few of them were clearly intended against US policies, and "Tiburón" (Shark) some say was specifically aimed at Ronald Reagan.
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Kayla wrote:
barbie sing along? little boys? i am sure this bunch will grow up to be gay
Growing up as a teenager, listening to Judas Priest, I thought I was getting the stuff that only real tough men listened to. Turned out the lead singer was gay. I really don't care, they were the best. And I don't think the Barbie sing along will make a difference in their future lives.
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Conde Lucanor wrote:Growing up as a teenager, listening to Judas Priest, I thought I was getting the stuff that only real tough men listened to. Turned out the lead singer was gay. I really don't care, they were the best. And I don't think the Barbie sing along will make a difference in their future lives.
but barbie sing alongs will make a difference to my future sanity - that stuff is horrible.

I eventually had to put on headphone and crank up some blink 182. that did not work out so well as i found myself writing 'fuck shit piss cock **** cocksucker motherfucker' on the USDA forms i was trying to fill out

hopefully being gay - should any of them turn out to be gay - will not make the sort of difference it used to make
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Kayla wrote:
Blaggard wrote:Put some Metallica on maybe, then tell the little lovelies if they don't pipe down a bit it's staying on all day. If nothing else it might solve the gayness issue. j/k
there is nothing to solve in the gayness issue

its just that normally when you watch little boys and girls play together you see some conflict - and hopefully conflict resolution - stemming from different styles of play

but i did not see that - these boys play (and throw) like girls

not an issue in this house, if boys want to play dressup with girls and prance around in princess dresses no one is going to stop them - is a little unusual, that is all
That's of course why I said joking, there's a bit more to sexuality than what music you like. Didn't mean anything by it of course,was just a silly off the cuff remark. :)

There's is something to solve, peoples dumb attitudes, but that is way off topic. :)

A large majority of transvestites who are male, are heterosexual, so...
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Conde Lucanor wrote:
Blaggard wrote:Since you are here Conde how do you feel about Westerners doing songs about South America?

For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pey29CLID3I

Simon and Grafunkle: El Condor Pasa
Not only in music, but in all cultural manifestations in general, I welcome diversity. The loans from one form of expression to another and between local cultures is actually the best way to inspire creativity and enrich human experience. What I don't appreciate much is the easy path of stereotypes and clichés, which make cultural experience very poor. Spain is not only Andalucía and Flamenco is not the only Spanish music. The other day I laughed at a Spielberg movie, where Costa Ricans were portrayed as Mexican peasants and listened to mariachis.
Hehe I take your point. It's like when people in x film or art form say all UK citizens are lager drinking football hooligans, who like Fatty, greasy, tasteless food and seldom eat anything else. It's probably ok in a comedy film, up to a point, but if it's a serious movie it's kinda lazy.
Blaggard wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS_bN5ECJTI

Sting: They Dance Alone (Cueca Solo)

I am sure you know the politics of Chile so I wont bore you.

I mean I am not sure that South Americans or even European Spanish and Portuguese write songs about other countries politics, or based on their culture, maybe they do, but not with the same sort of regularity I would guess. Perhaps it's a sort of white men's burden thing those who did would like to apologise, or to forget, but it seems a common thing in the West which I know colonial South America is part of but you get the point.

Now, about the Simon and Garfunkel song. I have always liked their work, some of their songs are among my favorites, but this song in particular didn't come out that well. Perhaps I'm too used to listening to the instrumental Peruvian piece, which is perfectly beautiful as it is, so that the added voices really don't seem to fit. But I'm sure they did it with all due respect.

The man in the video at 3:30 is Rubén Blades, a fellow countryman and a household name across Latin America. He's kind of our Bruce Springsteen or Bob Dylan. Along with Fania All Stars, where he came from musically, he took Salsa genre to the next level, experimenting with almost every rhythm and popular style from the Caribbean. His songs had a lot of social and political content, a few of them were clearly intended against US policies, and "Tiburón" (Shark) some say was specifically aimed at Ronald Reagan.
Ok that's cool, just wanted to get your opinion. Will check out your links. I didn't know that about Rubén, ok well that is pretty airtight then. :)
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Hard to believe these guys were around 19 or 20 when they came out with beauties like these. A couple of albums later, they were doing worthless music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNVVQXHaek
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