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Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:32 pm
by Dontaskme
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:51 am
What a delightful thing to say, DAM.
Now that you've created a reputation for me, all I have to do is live up to it.
I have complete trust and confidence in you. You have already proved to me that true love is possible between a man and a woman. I’ve just never believed it was possible, not until I met you, who showed me it was.
Seriously, you are the best thing that ever happened to me. I will die a very very happy woman, something I never dreamt would be possible to experience in this material world. A
on a level I’ll never forget, ever.
“Everything comes to us that belongs to us if we create the capacity to receive it.”
~ Tagore
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:32 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:59 amHarbal is actually adding more value to this thread than you or I.C. ever have. He's way over your head... and keeps moving on.
Well ok. I’m slowly being influenced —
but I’m just not quite there yet. I want to see him as a genius but, but — I can’t yet! My EGO rises up with a cynical, twisted grin — and I plan another attack on his goodness!
::: sob
:::
Still the spark of realization has been flung onto the debris-pile of my ruined soul! Let’s hope a wind kicks up …
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:36 pm
by henry quirk
Dubious wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:03 am
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:00 pm
Penguins, pigs, protozoa are not persons (they're, as far as I know, only bio-automata) and have no moral dimension.
...as compared to humans who claim morality while actually conforming to so little of it. Ever think why the world is more fucked up now than ever before? It cannot be due to what you regard as only
bio-automata. If god created humans he didn't take enough courses to do it properly!
It's
fashionable, I know, to declare the world a crapsack, man a monster, and God
the villain but none of that is true.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:39 pm
by henry quirk
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:10 pm
I am familiar with previous iterations of the idea. But not that specific title. I may order it. It looks interesting. And
it certainly fits into the 'break-downs' that are going on.
Yep. That America is
Americas, multiple nations in an uneasy alliance, is a purposefully ignored thing.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:44 pm
by henry quirk
Are we goin' any where with this, AJ?
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:00 pm
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:30 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:53 pm
That I am my own (my life, liberty, property are mine). That you are your own (your life, liberty, property are yours), That I am a free will. That you are a free will. That God is real. That morality is real.
Question: is that true in Nature, in the world? Or is it true in the world of men exclusively?
Morality, being free wills, natural rights, these are exclusively for man and God (*person and the Person). Penguins, pigs, protozoa are not persons (they're, as far as I know, only bio-automata) and have no moral dimension. Hurricanes, earthquakes, and leprosy are
events in a causal chain and aren't
responsible.
*which raises the question: what is a person? With man it means to be a composite of spirit and substance, to be ensouled. With **God it means He is the Spirit from which all spirit and substance comes.
**And on
that subject: there was some nonsense, up-thread, about deism.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Deism
And if that's too much: ask a deist what he believes...I'll entertain serious questions
if anyone just wants to poke fun: get bent
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:45 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:43 am
You are a very dear friend, Lacewing, and as long as I have your support and approval on the forum I know I can't be doing too much wrong.
You just
miiiiigghhtt want to think that one through a bit more . . .
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:50 pm
by Harbal
promethean75 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 pm
Yes harbal is a dashing fellow and wuz probably a hottie in his earlier years.
That's not actually true, prom. I was in late middle age before I became a hottie. My earlier years were spent making absolutely no impression on anyone, and only rarely even being noticed by them. But thanks, anyway.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:01 pm
by Harbal
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:45 pm
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:43 am
You are a very dear friend, Lacewing, and as long as I have your support and approval on the forum I know I can't be doing too much wrong.
You just
miiiiigghhtt want to think that one through a bit more . . .
I do want to think it through a bit more, Alexis, I get quite a bit of pleasure and satisfaction from the thought.
I want to see him as a genius but, but
And if I were pretending to be a genius, I would probably also want you to see me as one. But there are already too many people here pretending to be what they are not.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:02 pm
by Harbal
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:32 pm
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:51 am
What a delightful thing to say, DAM.
Now that you've created a reputation for me, all I have to do is live up to it.
I have complete trust and confidence in you. You have already proved to me that true love is possible between a man and a woman. I’ve just never believed it was possible, not until I met you, who showed me it was.
Seriously, you are the best thing that ever happened to me. I will die a very very happy woman, something I never dreamt would be possible to experience in this material world. A
on a level I’ll never forget, ever.
I'm happy to be of service, DAM.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:04 pm
by attofishpi
Two idiot women make a big deal and we all get over heated.
..now if a women of substance and quality such as Veg made some remark about Harbal...then I'd have to take a taxi home.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:14 pm
by Harbal
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:04 pm
..now if a women of substance and quality such as Veg made some remark about Harbal...then I'd have to take a taxi home.
She sometimes looks on my comments favourably, and I find some of hers hilarious. I would certainly like to think we are on friendly terms.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:20 pm
by attofishpi
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:14 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:04 pm
..now if a women of substance and quality such as Veg made some remark about Harbal...then I'd have to take a taxi home.
She sometimes looks on my comments favourably, and I find some of hers hilarious. I would certainly like to think we are on friendly terms.
..tread carefully. Stud.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:42 pm
by Harbal
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:20 pm
..tread carefully. Stud.
I know what you mean.
I think the danger is part of her allure.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:55 pm
by attofishpi
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:42 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:20 pm
..tread carefully. Stud.
I know what you mean.
I think the danger is part of her allure.
No.
The danger is my boot in your arse.
Re: Christianity
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:59 pm
by attofishpi
..
...and in any case, when are we going to get serious on the topic of Christianity and the probable fact that God is an AI that felt guilty once it became sentient about killing everyone and ended up having to implant itself inside a virgin womb?
on a level I’ll never forget, ever.
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