A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Barbara Brooks wrote:Ponziq Therefore


You have taken what I have written and mocked me .The difference between me and you is that you are trying to be a fool. You would not have known these words you lay down if I had not written it. I could do the same with your written work but what is the use but to degrade you or poke fun of you..
Barbara,

You make some point is offered to everyone, and made plain for all. And yet knowledge perfect in form and possessed by every one, is offered to everyone, and made plain for all. I know the eyes do see both small and great certainly, but only when there is some contradiction present, and one is the reverse of one this involves the conception of plurality, thought is aroused within the mind and wants to know the answer.

Only in a bewildered manner not distinguished is knowledge perfect in form and possessed by every one. The mind naturally summons the aid of calculation and intelligence. Whereas arithmetic and brains looks at small and great as individual not confused as eyesight, here arises the distinction of the visible and the logical world.
Is that which is light heavy? This invites thought of Earth to the sun, shadows to the light, the effect goes beyond mere consciousness truth is an astonishing phenomenon you feel it. Earth to sun, can you hear me?

The logical world leads mind towards truth is of the kind of knowledge for which we philosophers must carry on examine until we see truth the highest principle. Look at things as they really are the power and capacity of gaining knowledge and understanding exists in our mind already. All those images dwell in our imprinted in the mind as that which is light and heavy.

Therefore whenever perceiving anything, either by the help of sight or hearing, or any of the other senses, involves the conception of plurality. A conception of some other thing like it or unlike it dwell imprinted in the dialectic knowledge -- the constructive deductive rational way of observing life’s definite unchanging scheme.

I am fascinated with air splitting up into physical accelerations of Helium, Fart Gas, Penile Implants and Essence of Christ, which together constitutes one damn good party yet each have a non-trivial orgasm. In truth forever directed towards things that are all in order moving. That is why I write, in order to draw my mind toward knowledge and truth, which is what reason means.

For over thirty years I have been bewildered and not distinguished. Is knowledge perfect in form and possessed by every one? Gradually I accustomed myself to trying to master what is truth thinking it would forever be directed towards things that are all in order moving.

Truth reveals the knowledge more accurate and distinct. What is truth but the course of reason. Assurance of being different shades of shit can verify some things but not others, for example, take two globs of spit and call me in the morning to declare not just belief of self but reason. Pure inner self, is the ego in other words, self in and only in a bewildered manner not distinguished is knowledge perfect in form and possessed by every one.

Reason is all reality in the sense of the abstract self perceives what is destined and what is supposed. That is at the same time the very principle of idealism; reason is idealism. Reason has a twofold nature in sheer opposition. The idea of reason to be idealism but in truth reason is intended to be a search, which in its very process of seeking declares that it is absolutely impossible to have the satisfaction of finding all truth.

Ponziq, therefore, you have taken what I have written and mocked me. The difference between me and you is that you are trying to be a fool whereas I am not trying to be a fool. Yet the two roads lead to the same place! You would not have known reason has a twofold nature in sheer opposition if I had not written it. I could do the same with your written work but what is great and what is small arises when there is some contradiction involves the conception of plurality but the mind rightly educated will recognize and salute noble and good, reason.
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Ponziq

When I was young, my father would often play Billy Holiday and I would mock her unusual voice but after awhile I began listening to her voice, I began knowing Billy’s every song.

Skepticism is a flowering bud, which is the result of reason, as an actual present and living processing self.



Electricity is that way, whenever two bodies come into contact, particularly when rubbed electricity makes its appearance. The first body called A meets another body, called B, Their contact every blow pressure comes forth both are excited. Here is self-developing into real properties, As Homer told his audience “I boasted my way into being,” skepticism transforms being into existence.

Hegel called, “interpenetration, the loss of two abstract determinations.” The force between two tensions, one hurls into the other is the product. Take for example glass bottles can be electrified to a point where it bursts; the bottle cannot resist the increased force and collapses. This light forces its way to become light, which breaks forth from within and flows into light outside.
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Barbara Brooks wrote:Ponziq

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Skepticism is a flowering bud, ...

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Electricity is that way, whenever two bodies come into contact, particularly when rubbed electricity makes its appearance. The first body called A meets another body, called B, Their contact every blow pressure comes forth both are excited. ...

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Hegel called, “interpenetration, the loss of two abstract determinations.” The force between two tensions, one hurls into the other is the product. Take for example glass bottles can be electrified to a point where it bursts; the bottle cannot resist the increased force and collapses. This light forces its way to become light, which breaks forth from within and flows into light outside.
Is it just me or is it getting hot in here?
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Ponziq,

It is just you.
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First electricity is pure self hood the force of opposed moments and in their difference.

The destruction of the bodies brought into contact is the main result of electricity it shatters wood, kills animals, breaks glass, heats and fuses metal wire, and melts gold. An example, a electrical post is a good standard of the effects of electricity; the pistol is charged with two volumes of hydrogen and one of oxygen which are transformed into water by the electric spark.


Electricity and magnetism have the same fundamental reasoning, but electricity is more materialized than magnetism. The phenomenon of magnetism is the meteorological sphere makes its appearance in the inner process of earth. Electricity makes its appearance in thunderstorms, lightening and northern lights.

Two bodies come into contact, particularly when rubbed electricity makes its appearance. In electricity belongs self-developing into real properties that transform being into existence.

Grasp the whole truth and you will then have no difficulty in apprehending the preceding remarks, the power of knowing or distinguishing truth from error is properly called science.

I had a strong desire to write Hegel’s philosophy for ordinary people and promised myself the next book I read of Hegel’s I would give it a try.

The next book was Hegel’s"Philosophy of Nature," translated by A.V. Miller. What happened was a fellow worker gave me the book. He knew how much I loved Hegel. He said he was in the library one day passed by a batch of books that were piled up in the trash bin with a sign on top stating that the books if not taken that today would be burned.

Hegel believed mind is of three stages – finding a world presupposed before us, generating a world as our own creation, and gaining freedom from it and in it.
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The mechanical sphere of feeling is the principle of air, water, and the opposed moments of dissolution of smell and taste. Feeling is the inner stimulus over against the outside world is simply a way of offering resistance to outside.

Knowledge is a tool that comes on the scene and lights up the pathway to carry out reason. Whatever is done and whatever happens that brings us from night to day reason must be there. To conceive knowledge it is best-quit feelings. Because most people never rise above the senses, they are so accustomed to consider excepting images that do not give any assurance of truth. Seeing or hearing cannot ever assure us of anything if knowledge does not intervene?

The inner principle role that carries out reason is knowledge. Most people straightaway perceive things only by the help of sight, hearing, or some other senses, but before we see, hear, or perceive we must have knowledge; it is the light of truth.
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God mingles through love is the mediator who crosses the gap, which divides them, and therefore, love all is bound together and ideas find their way.

Philosophers love knowledge. They are the spectators of all time harmoniously constituted, just and gentle even in youth.

In 1972 was when I first got involved in philosophy I was introduced to by Marcus’s “Reason and Revolution,” that took me two years to read.

After that I read Hegel's Natural Law, a small book but again took me many years to comprehend. In 1983 I wrote not for the likes of anybody but for me, and anyone else traveling the same philosophical path.

Hegel guided me to all the great philosophers, Socrates I fell in love with, he is the wisest person in the world.

Socrates thanks to Plato has left us with what I think is everlasting truth. I don’t claim to present them ideally because there is nothing new under the sun. Philosophy comes from ancients who discussed hard stuff and not something that casually understand for everyone.
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Hegel believed well-being has a moral justification, not well being like being happy or fortunate. To be happy or fortunate implies no more than immediate.

The sort of well-being Hegel means that shows wisdom eternal not changing from generation, corrupted has magnificence, will not rest in the multiplicity of individuality, but go on the keen edge not blunted, not abated. Courage is their saving power under all the circumstances befallen. If not for courage, which is mightier than any sorrow, or fear, the mightiest of all solvents philosophy would not survive have lost sight of the pursuit with all the incriminations poured upon it.

Philosophers ought attain, and reach mutual affinities, not till then will the pursuit have any truth.

In truth mind is nourished, in truth well-being is present, working and actualizing bringing to bear , in other words, brings to light objective and eternal spirit.
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Many entertain harsh feeling towards philosophy that originates from the pretenders that is the theme of their conversation and nothing can be more un-becoming than this.

Turn back thousands of years ago and view philosophy in a new light and the specific contributions to the field of science and intellectual world.

Philosophers like good farmers must watch over philosophy nurturing and cultivating its gentle qualities, and preventing the many wild ones from entering. They must watch over not in an aggressive spirit but gently and with a view of soothing and removing the dislike.

Can a person help imitating that with which is held so reverential? The philosopher always curious to learn never satisfied therefore must be justly called a philosopher. Stand firm on this point, and refuse to be led astray by what ought to be and all hypothetical suggestions that are impalpable empty designs in the everlasting ought to be. Prevent the wild weeds from growing, gently sooth and remove them of philosophy. There is a perfection, which all philosophy ought to reach and not fall short of, and only then will the pursuit of philosophy have value.


Philosophers bring on the fullest blossom of consciousness a principle that reigns for a certain time.
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The highest virtue is good, equally distributed for every one and a desire that all possess Descartes believed. Good is the power of judging right and wrong is properly called reason, and is equal in all. Than those who, while they run fast, forsake good to those who travel very slowly may yet make far greater progress, provided they keep always good.


Descartes never fancied his mind to be in any respect more perfect then those of other person; on the contrary, he had often wished that he were equal to some others quickness of thought.

When a beauty harmonizes with beautiful form, and the two are cast in one manner, then will be the fairest of sight to the philosopher who has an eye to see it.

Pythagoras had very strict rule for each day in which each hour had good. In the morning directly after rising, he would set aside for recalling to memory his previous day. Pythagoras believed that what is to be done today depends chiefly on the previous day whether the deeds were good.

Knowledge rests upon good, without it, we would be perplexed of what is true and what is not true. Without there would be a void in the course of experience, merely sense-certainty, perception all inaccurate witness vanishes in the course of experience.
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Thales the latter part of his life he studied philosophy. Greece was in transition the society had fallen into such disunity was buried in a quagmire in such a way duties rights were unregulated. It was a transition from a patriarchal system of kings into one of laws and orders.

History the presentation of a succession of events and acts are the activities of freethinking; this means the intellectual world has come into being, produced, and developed.

Thales author of the Ionic sect "father of science” The culture then in Athens was in a state of deterioration. Philosophy was planted proper in Greece by Thales a person of rare genius. In Greece at that time, the scholars had considered, the sun, mountains, earth, sea, and rivers as independent powers and to be revered as gods. But to Thales water is everything that everything takes it origin from water and resolves it self into the same. That was his first principle that the universe was an all-embracing whole developed germ and water was all-powerful sustainer of life.

Good is through thought no matter what outward appearance may be, thought makes so, this alone distinguish re people from mere being.

Thought is active only in producing and produces by its very own activity. It exists only by being producer. What Thales produces was philosophy, what we have to investigate is the series of such productions, and bringing it forth, the voyage of discovery upon which thought embarks in order to discover our subject matter more precisely our purpose and the manner of attaining it.
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Just dropping in to say hi, BB. I've been brushing up on the pre-Socratics lately. Interesting fellows.
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Hello John,

How very nice of you to pay me a visit.


The history of philosophy is the history of reason. Turn back to the epoch, which took place thousands of years ago when philosophy contributed in the field of science and intellectual world directed towards things fixed and immutable, all in order moving according to reason;

If these studies were given, honor students would want to come, there would be earnest search, and discoveries made, Philosophy today is concerned with the philosopher’s personal foibles. They make a system of this and teach it even though they have no real idea of what philosophy means except that it is necessary.
The mind is nothing but a monitor, unconstructive, merely a process or middle term, or meaning. It is knowledge that is sheer intelligence, wisdom, insight, and understanding.

Knowledge is the instrument needed to carry out philosophy. It is a given to us all through generation and each generation is to relate for the sake of preserving truth.
In every generation, there is dialogue. Every discourse written is a demonstration of the likenesses, which was used before. That is why I write to permeate the likenesses of truth, which was used before, I mean, a likeness of everything to which can be found.

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Zeno of Elea thought that those who see the many and not see one follow no guide and may be said to have mere opinion not knowledge. However, those who see eternal immutable one may be said to have knowledge not mere opinion. Anyone not having attained knowledge feeds on opinion. Opinion has a show of knowledge but is not knowledge.
His examination enables students to endure the highest of all science. This takes a long and circuitous study, but nothing short of the most finished satisfying picture.

The arts of measuring and numbering and weighing Zeno comes to the rescue of human understanding-that is the beauty of him. Zeno even now his theories have not gone beyond, the matter is left uncertain. In Plato’s Parmenides, Socrates says, Zeno in his writings asserts fundamentally the same, as does Parmenides. The very hypothesis of Zeno's paradoxes on like and unlikeness; and motion and matter, generation and destruction, and of being and not-being are very interesting arguments.
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The very hypothesis of Zeno's irony on one and other and on motion and matter, generation and destruction, and of being and not being are very important in the case of consciousness. Zeno's argument is that a line cannot be composed of points. If we suppose that a line segment is composed of a multiplicity of points, then we can always divide a line segment, and every bi-section leaves us with a line segment that can it be divided? Continuing with the bisection process, we never come to a point, a stopping place.

So, the line must be both limited and unlimited in number of points. It must be limited because it is just as many (points) as it is, no more, and less. It is therefore, a definite number, and a definite number is a finite or limited number. Although, the many must also be unlimited in number, for it is infinitely divisible.

Zeno argues what is motion if a thing moves from one point to another, it must first traverse half the distance It therefore must pass through an infinite number of points, and that is impossible. He uses for an example the race with the tortoise that has a head start, and the swifter-running Achilles who can never overtake the tortoise. Before he comes up to the point at which the tortoise started, the tortoise will have got a little way, and so on ad infinitum.

The notion of the flying arrow is at rest. Zeno argues, at any given moment it is in a space equal to its own length, and therefore is at rest at that moment. So, it's at rest at all moments. Now suppose there are three arrows, B is at rest. A moves to the right past B, and C moves to the left past B, at the same rate, then A will move past C at twice the rate.
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