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John wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:
Hjarloprillar wrote:Why did Einstein INFURIATE the tower. He was a pleb.
that changed our world. Without permission of the tower.
:lol: Yeah! A pleb with a degree in Physics from the foremost Polytechnic in Switzerland. He didn't infuriate anyone in the Physics 'tower'.

Where do people get these ideas from?
It seems to be conveniently forgotten that Einstein published his Nobel Prize winning paper on the photoelectric effect (amongst others) in the same year that he obtained his PhD.
Fair enough.. I was wrong.
I have no excuse. I was talking crap and it landed back in my lap.
Though i believe you understand where i was coming from with comment.

I am my own worst enemy.

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Hjarloprillar wrote:Agree
Nice to find agreement.
And Foghorn was not 'angry'.. He was loud and pushy.
In the end.. He ends up like the pushy dog.. "No.no. not the gravy."
Why are you telling me this? As I already know this as he's my favourite cartoon character. I'd also told VOT this as it was him who thought him angry. You forgot blustering and boastful. Although I am beginning to wish I'd not capitulated to a Wastebook whimsy week of having ones favourite cartoon character as ones picture, but since I was getting grief for having no pictures on Wastebook I had a weak moment. Which is pretty much why I have this as my avatar here as I don't much like images and couldn't be bothered choosing one what with all the bother of cropping and sizing so I thought I'd kill two birds with one stone. That it turned out to be aesthetically pleasing to me because I then noticed it was in a 'thinker' posture and the right-way around to look like it was observing the post and I liked the self-irony of the character traits with my words was a surprise. Even better is the responses it gets from others who appear to use avatars to mean something.
"Boy , i said boy.. get you skinny ass out there"
Are you a weasel or a chicken.
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Your cartoon looks angry because it's such a small picture (and my screen very big) you don't get the details. I increased the size of it and I saw it wasn't angry-being as I thought. Pardon that misunderstanding.

I'm still expecting absurdity from it, though. It's an unchangeable habit :P (and yes, roster not chicken. I just don't use the term "roster" very often so writing swiftly it becomes "chicken" ;))
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Hjarloprillar wrote:I dont have a degree in philosophy because. I dont need one.
Its a hobby.
A degree in his hobby?
Unless your hobby is Miniture turbojets or some other skill that requires technical expertise.
Fair enough. I took mine for economic and strategic reasons.
Why would i waste years to justify myself. Being able to reason has no degree.
You can or you cant or you can 'poorly'.
:lol: Surely this 'poorly' has degrees?
And.. If you look you will see that nowhere.. In my replys. Do i make sly asides on you..
Show me where I've made a sly aside at you?
We could start with.
Well pommies like to whine.. that is their job. Les pommes. fruit of the dirt.
POM's, Prisoners Of her Majesty. Pretty much the ancestors of many white Australians.

This whining thing appears to have taken a turn around, how were your Olympics? :)
My great great gran da was Auguste Frédéric Louis Viesse de Marmont, 1st Duke of Ragusa . Of the Grand army.. We shall have our revenge. hehehe
Not if you keep marching in columns when the tactics have changed. Bit like the last time with the longbow and with the Elizabethan ship cannon.

Still, nice ancestor. One of my great great grandads was a civilian holder of the VC.

Always liked the King of Norway and Swedens comment when once asked who he was he said something like, 'I'm the King of Sweden and Norway but I was a Marshal of France.'
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The Voice of Time wrote:Your cartoon looks angry because it's such a small picture (and my screen very big) you don't get the details. I increased the size of it and I saw it wasn't angry-being as I thought. Pardon that misunderstanding.

I'm still expecting absurdity from it, though. It's an unchangeable habit :P (and yes, roster not chicken. I just don't use the term "roster" very often so writing swiftly it becomes "chicken" ;))
DO you mean Rooster?
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chaz wyman wrote:
The Voice of Time wrote:Your cartoon looks angry because it's such a small picture (and my screen very big) you don't get the details. I increased the size of it and I saw it wasn't angry-being as I thought. Pardon that misunderstanding.

I'm still expecting absurdity from it, though. It's an unchangeable habit :P (and yes, roster not chicken. I just don't use the term "roster" very often so writing swiftly it becomes "chicken" ;))
DO you mean Rooster?
Crroct spalling es overated... :P

btw you spelled your first word with capital letters, hardly think you intended that ;)
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I read the results of a study that stated that most words could be recognized if all the letters were there even if they were out of order, I believe the first and last letters needed to be in the correct places. It now seems that all the correct letters are not always necessary for the meaning to be mostly clear.

I thought that on a forum all caps was to indicate the raising of ones voice, AS IN SHOUTING?
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thedoc wrote:I read the results of a study that stated that most words could be recognized if all the letters were there even if they were out of order, I believe the first and last letters needed to be in the correct places. It now seems that all the correct letters are not always necessary for the meaning to be mostly clear.

I thought that on a forum all caps was to indicate the raising of ones voice, AS IN SHOUTING?
Ay, but even if it could be intelligible it doesn't make sense of him to shout "DO", especially without "!" which usually is added to signify you meant shouting, also when the rest of the sentence is without caps.
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The introduction of cell phones, texting, and internet forums, is developing a new variation of the English language, and sometimes it's like learning a different language. However I have been exposed to learning a second language, sort of, and it has been interesting. When My grandaughter turned 2 she was not talking, even a little. We carefully observed her behavior and soon determined that she was just refusing to talk. She understood the words that we said, she could make the sounds, she was just being stubborn. My daughter was going to try to 'out stubborn' her but I really didn't see that that was going to work, I knew both of them very well. Then my daughter started bringing home a series of DVD's 'Baby Signing Time'. The grandaughter just loved to watch them and would watch all day if I let her, but she also started to learn ASL, but the upshot of that was everyone else needed to learn it as well. But the positive end result is that she started verbalizing the words along with signing them and even now she will either just sign certain words or both sign and say the words together. I guess the point is that language evolves whether we like it or not.
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Hjarloprillar wrote:The Position that . Given total control of Wehrmacht. Without interference from the little corporal.
The OKW
Would have defeated The USSR by November '41. Or at latest by Aug '42.
Would you like maps and Unit lists?. Having spieled Barbarossa dozens of times before i wrote HSC essay.
Which was claimed as best Essay in NSW that year 1977.
What other result is there?
Was it that you had researched it well that made it Phd material? Facts and figures and 'gamed' it through? As I'd have thought(and have a strange memory of) that by the '70s the military historians and colleges had played out this counter-factual and come to the same conclusions. Although, for myself, I find these 'great-man' versions of History a little simple as it'd mean we'd have to give Hitler the credit for all the successes. You could lay some blame upon the hide-bound Office Corps and their obsession with duty above reality. Although could we not argue that if the Luftwaffe had fulfilled its promise to supply the sixth-army then we'd now be considering Hitler a genius. Then again the Soviets were out performing in industrial productivity with respect to arms so probably the outcome would have been the same.

But my apologies as I've been hearing your statement as PhD standard, not material, so I've got the wrong end-of-the stick and am impressed by such an analysis at such a young age.
Then.. thought this is more speculative . England would have been crushed in 42/43
How unfortunate. [;)] Though really only speculative in would Kriegsmarine die to last ship to remove RN from invasion beaches. Would Luftwaffe sacrifice 50% of its planes.[or more]. To get the army there. cause once there.. The Pz/Gren units would take it all.
No argument there, as the govt at the time thought the same thing. Luckily the Luftwaffe made errors, we had radar and the third front opened.
Especially with such as the buffoon Montgomery at the helm of Her majesties land forces.

-----------have you heard the joke about El Alamien. Monty managed a win and he only outnumbered the germans 4 to one in Men and 8 to one in Tanks And 12 to one in air.
Hmm... you'll not here me defending the donkeys but the British Army had changed since WW1 and not sure about your figures as I have it as approx 2:1 in men, 2:1 in tanks, about even in planes and anything from even to 2:1 in anti-tanks. Now given that the German weapons were superior and it was Rommel I think he did okay, especially after the debacle he took over from Auchinleck.
Not bad for a bankers army
good show.
I think you mean shopkeepers and they also did pretty well in the Burma campaign once they got over the shock. This would be a good subject as the contribution from the non-white members of the Empire has long been over looked.
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The Voice of Time wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:
The Voice of Time wrote:Your cartoon looks angry because it's such a small picture (and my screen very big) you don't get the details. I increased the size of it and I saw it wasn't angry-being as I thought. Pardon that misunderstanding.

I'm still expecting absurdity from it, though. It's an unchangeable habit :P (and yes, roster not chicken. I just don't use the term "roster" very often so writing swiftly it becomes "chicken" ;))
DO you mean Rooster?
Crroct spalling es overated... :P

btw you spelled your first word with capital letters, hardly think you intended that ;)
No need to get shirty. A roster is a list. Thought you might like the heads-up as English is not your first language.
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Grendel wrote:I do.

However philsophy degrees vary country to country greately if web forums are anything to go by, so perhaps elaboration is needed.

For example I've noticed that Americans in posts use formal logic a lot, I'm guessing US degrees put great emphasis on it. Here we didn't touch it even slightly, so it reads like Martian to me. Here's a list of the course I did I keep for memories sake, I wonder how typical it is?

1st Year (basic units)
History of Ideas I (Greeks to Descartes)
History of Ideas II (British Empiricists and Continental Rationalists)
Philosophy of Language (Ayer/Russell/ Vienna Circle/Wittgenstein)
Political Philosophy (Hobbes/Locke/Rousseau/Utilitarianism)
Metaphysics
Epistemology
Continental Philosophy (Non-Enlightenment, Keirkengard/Schopenhauer through to Foucault/Derrida)

2nd and 3rd year (advanced Units)
Husserl/Heidegger
Nietzsche
Artificial Intelligence
Existentialism (Kierkegaard/Heidegger/Sartre/Merle Ponte/Camus)
French Philosophy (Sartre/Barthes/ Kristeva/Derrida/Foucalt)
Philosophy of Cinema
Frankfurt School (Lukacs/Horheimer/Benjamin/Marcuse/Adorno)
Jurisprudence
Structuralism/Post Structuralism (Sassure to Derrida)
Postmodernism (Baudrillard/Lyotard)
Psychology (Jung, Lacan)
Modern Marxism (Althussar/Lefebvre/Gramsci/Habermas)
Parapsychology
Greek Philosophy (Pre-Socratics to Hellenics)

My Dissertation (Lyotard)
I have a first-class honours degree in philosophy; I completed my BA at the University of New England, and the Honours year at Macquarie University.

Of three units per year over the first two years at UNE, six units in total, at least one of the six had to be a unit in formal logic. The staff admitted that they would have liked to increase the formal logic requirement, but if they had done so, they probably wouldn't have got any enrolments at all...

I notice your course included a lot of pop-philosophy (Lacan, Adorno, Derrida etc). Mine did too. But there were few options; we had to take what we could get.
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alan1000 wrote:
Grendel wrote:I do.

However philsophy degrees vary country to country greately if web forums are anything to go by, so perhaps elaboration is needed.

For example I've noticed that Americans in posts use formal logic a lot, I'm guessing US degrees put great emphasis on it. Here we didn't touch it even slightly, so it reads like Martian to me. Here's a list of the course I did I keep for memories sake, I wonder how typical it is?

1st Year (basic units)
History of Ideas I (Greeks to Descartes)
History of Ideas II (British Empiricists and Continental Rationalists)
Philosophy of Language (Ayer/Russell/ Vienna Circle/Wittgenstein)
Political Philosophy (Hobbes/Locke/Rousseau/Utilitarianism)
Metaphysics
Epistemology
Continental Philosophy (Non-Enlightenment, Keirkengard/Schopenhauer through to Foucault/Derrida)

2nd and 3rd year (advanced Units)
Husserl/Heidegger
Nietzsche
Artificial Intelligence
Existentialism (Kierkegaard/Heidegger/Sartre/Merle Ponte/Camus)
French Philosophy (Sartre/Barthes/ Kristeva/Derrida/Foucalt)
Philosophy of Cinema
Frankfurt School (Lukacs/Horheimer/Benjamin/Marcuse/Adorno)
Jurisprudence
Structuralism/Post Structuralism (Sassure to Derrida)
Postmodernism (Baudrillard/Lyotard)
Psychology (Jung, Lacan)
Modern Marxism (Althussar/Lefebvre/Gramsci/Habermas)
Parapsychology
Greek Philosophy (Pre-Socratics to Hellenics)

My Dissertation (Lyotard)
I have a first-class honours degree in philosophy; I completed my BA at the University of New England, and the Honours year at Macquarie University.

Of three units per year over the first two years at UNE, six units in total, at least one of the six had to be a unit in formal logic. The staff admitted that they would have liked to increase the formal logic requirement, but if they had done so, they probably wouldn't have got any enrolments at all...

I notice your course included a lot of pop-philosophy (Lacan, Adorno, Derrida etc). Mine did too. But there were few options; we had to take what we could get.
Welcome.
Don't you think that Adorno is an obscurantist old wind-bag?
And that Derrida has managed to find a way to say the say thing again and again for a million words?
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Maybe next you can compare pron viewings and discuss the performance of the participants as an indication of your own sexual prowess.

When art has become about recycling previous art, rather than imitating nature...philosophy becomes about recycling and discussing opinions about nature rather than offering opinions on it.
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When a person gets to a stage when he is just wasting oxygen, re-cycling of his brain is the only option.
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