Because they seem to me to likely to be true. Don't you want a fuller perspective of things just to cover all the possible bases?accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:06 pmThen why tell me as if I should give a shit?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:05 pmNo. Again, I'm just making what seem like obvious observations. Am I not allowed to do that?accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:04 pm
And that makes him 'special'. Are you seriously trying to guilt trip me over that psychopathic little freak?
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What are you angry at?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:55 pm As far as my anger and the straight face, I'm keeping my anger under control in this case because human lives are in the balance.
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I'm angry at Hamas for choosing violence over better diplomacy. Basically, Hamas gifted Gaza to Israel. They squandered everything in the name of revenge and retribution. The people of Gaza deserve better.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:57 pmWhat are you angry at?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:55 pm As far as my anger and the straight face, I'm keeping my anger under control in this case because human lives are in the balance.
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Do you have any anger left over for Israel's genocide? And Western, i.e. 95% US, support of it?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:01 pmI'm angry at Hamas for choosing violence over better diplomacy. Basically, Hamas gifted Gaza to Israel. They squandered everything in the name of revenge and retribution. The people of Gaza deserve better.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:57 pmWhat are you angry at?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:55 pm As far as my anger and the straight face, I'm keeping my anger under control in this case because human lives are in the balance.
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Yes. That's why I'm angry at Hamas. Genocide would be utterly impossible if it weren't for Hamas' atrocious violence. those Israeli's who want to occupy the West Bank and Gaza couldn't have asked for a better excuse to wipe out Gazans.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:05 pmDo you have any anger left over for Israel's genocide? And Western support of that?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:01 pmI'm angry at Hamas for choosing violence over better diplomacy. Basically, Hamas gifted Gaza to Israel. They squandered everything in the name of revenge and retribution. The people of Gaza deserve better.
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How much? So, the Palestinians only have themselves to blame for being conquered and displaced in 1948, for the Naqba? What better diplomacy would you have advised? You're not angry at the Israelis flaunting their sin as Sodom on October 7th 2023? And for their abysmal security failure?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:08 pmYes. That's why I'm angry at Hamas. Genocide would be utterly impossible if it weren't for Hamas' atrocious violence. those Israeli's who want to occupy the West Bank and Gaza couldn't have asked for a better excuse to wipe out Gazans.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:05 pmDo you have any anger left over for Israel's genocide? And Western support of that?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:01 pm
I'm angry at Hamas for choosing violence over better diplomacy. Basically, Hamas gifted Gaza to Israel. They squandered everything in the name of revenge and retribution. The people of Gaza deserve better.
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I certainly wouldn't have advised Hamas to massacre Israelis on Oct 7. I would have advised against it.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:11 pmHow much? So, the Palestinians only have themselves to blame for being conquered and displaced in 1948, for the Naqba? What better diplomacy would you have advised?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:08 pmYes. That's why I'm angry at Hamas. Genocide would be utterly impossible if it weren't for Hamas' atrocious violence. those Israeli's who want to occupy the West Bank and Gaza couldn't have asked for a better excuse to wipe out Gazans.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:05 pm
Do you have any anger left over for Israel's genocide? And Western support of that?
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Are you endorsing the wanton murder of innocent Israelis in order to bring a better life for Gazans?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:11 pm You're not angry at the Israelis flaunting their sin as Sodom on October 7th 2023? And for their abysmal security failure?
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Have you stopped beating your wife?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:16 pmAre you endorsing the wanton murder of innocent Israelis in order to bring a better life for Gazans?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:11 pm You're not angry at the Israelis flaunting their sin as Sodom on October 7th 2023? And for their abysmal security failure?
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Why wouldn't you have advised the Israelis not to leave their border undefended whilst they flaunt their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:14 pmI certainly wouldn't have advised Hamas to massacre Israelis on Oct 7. I would have advised against it.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:11 pmHow much? So, the Palestinians only have themselves to blame for being conquered and displaced in 1948, for the Naqba? What better diplomacy would you have advised?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:08 pm
Yes. That's why I'm angry at Hamas. Genocide would be utterly impossible if it weren't for Hamas' atrocious violence. those Israeli's who want to occupy the West Bank and Gaza couldn't have asked for a better excuse to wipe out Gazans.
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"Sin as Sodom"? What the hell are you on about? All I'm saying is that Hamas' actions only exacerbated the plight of Gazans. Am I wrong?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:31 pmWhy wouldn't you have advised the Israelis not to leave their border undefended whilst they flaunt their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:14 pmI certainly wouldn't have advised Hamas to massacre Israelis on Oct 7. I would have advised against it.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:11 pm
How much? So, the Palestinians only have themselves to blame for being conquered and displaced in 1948, for the Naqba? What better diplomacy would you have advised?
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What was the Sin of Sodom? And no, of course you're not wrong, you're 110% right. Because Israel left their border undefended whilst flaunting their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:33 pm"Sin as Sodom"? What the hell are you on about? All I'm saying is that Hamas' actions only exacerbated the plight of Gazans. Am I wrong?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:31 pmWhy wouldn't you have advised the Israelis not to leave their border undefended whilst they flaunt their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:14 pm
I certainly wouldn't have advised Hamas to massacre Israelis on Oct 7. I would have advised against it.
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What are the "sins of Sodom"? Are you being facetious, sarcastic, or ironic?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:36 pmWhat was the Sin of Sodom? And no, of course you're not wrong, you're 110% right. Because Israel left their border undefended whilst flaunting their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:33 pm"Sin as Sodom"? What the hell are you on about? All I'm saying is that Hamas' actions only exacerbated the plight of Gazans. Am I wrong?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:31 pm
Why wouldn't you have advised the Israelis not to leave their border undefended whilst they flaunt their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land?
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Ezekiel 16:49-50Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:40 pmWhat are the "sins of Sodom"? Are you being facetious, sarcastic, or ironic?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:36 pmWhat was the Sin of Sodom? And no, of course you're not wrong, you're 110% right. Because Israel left their border undefended whilst flaunting their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:33 pm
"Sin as Sodom"? What the hell are you on about? All I'm saying is that Hamas' actions only exacerbated the plight of Gazans. Am I wrong?![]()
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49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
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Who "did away with them"? God? This seems entirely tangential to our discussion.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:49 pmEzekiel 16:49-50Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:40 pmWhat are the "sins of Sodom"? Are you being facetious, sarcastic, or ironic?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:36 pm
What was the Sin of Sodom? And no, of course you're not wrong, you're 110% right. Because Israel left their border undefended whilst flaunting their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land.![]()
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49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
EDIT: Who are you saying is guilty of this "sin"? The Israelis at the festival? I believe the festival was some sort of charitable event held on behalf of Gazans by some of the Israelis.