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Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:42 am
by Age
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 9:58 am
“Which is, really, not very helpful, especially in a public forum.”
Happy to have been a help to you.
Now, find your own answers, lazy.
Talk about another example of 'the one' who does not read, and comprehend.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:46 am
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:21 am
What's even weirder is that my own words typed on the Internet don't feel like they're mine anymore. It's like I'm a different person from the one who typed the words only a few minutes ago. I wonder if knowledge changes the future, meaning when we learn something new, we deviate from the trajectory we were once on? Is that possible? Or are we doomed to continue in the direction we were headed at the time before we learned something?
Obviously once you human beings learn how to live in peace with one another, as One, then you will, and did, change your trajectory. And, the main reason you changed your direction is because living in peace and harmony with one another, as One, is the fundamental desire and want within all of you.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:14 am
by Belinda
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:21 am
What's even weirder is that my own words typed on the Internet don't feel like they're mine anymore. It's like I'm a different person from the one who typed the words only a few minutes ago. I wonder if knowledge changes the future, meaning when we learn something new, we deviate from the trajectory we were once on? Is that possible? Or are we doomed to continue in the direction we were headed at the time before we learned something?
Even a small experience such as writing to the online philosophy forum is a learning experience. Learning does change the future you will have.Learning makes your future more full of possibilities. Learning frees you to experience more choices.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:15 am
by accelafine
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:21 am
What's even weirder is that my own words typed on the Internet don't feel like they're mine anymore. It's like I'm a different person from the one who typed the words only a few minutes ago. I wonder if knowledge changes the future, meaning when we learn something new, we deviate from the trajectory we were once on? Is that possible? Or are we doomed to continue in the direction we were headed at the time before we learned something?
It does tie in with the whole 'no free will' thing. If the future already exists then obviously there's nothing we can do to change it. When you really think about it 'now' does seem like a rather absurd concept (not to mention an arrogant one). But it begs the question, if we have memories of our 'past', then why don't we have them of our 'future'? (or do we?)
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:22 pm
by Belinda
accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:15 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:21 am
What's even weirder is that my own words typed on the Internet don't feel like they're mine anymore. It's like I'm a different person from the one who typed the words only a few minutes ago. I wonder if knowledge changes the future, meaning when we learn something new, we deviate from the trajectory we were once on? Is that possible? Or are we doomed to continue in the direction we were headed at the time before we learned something?
It does tie in with the whole 'no free will' thing. If the future already exists then obviously there's nothing we can do to change it. When you really think about it 'now' does seem like a rather absurd concept (not to mention an arrogant one). But it begs the question, if we have memories of our 'past', then why don't we have them of our 'future'? (or do we?)
But if the future already existed it would be the past not the future; determinism does not imply predicting the future , that would be fatalism not determinism.
There is no "trajectory". The future is absolutely open, although we can calculate probabilities.
As for the free will thing, what we have is a mixture of chance and choice, which is not the same as metaphysical "Free Will".
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:34 pm
by accelafine
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:41 pm
by Belinda
Of course. Philosophy is not easy.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:30 pm
by Fairy
Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:42 am
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 9:58 am
“Which is, really, not very helpful, especially in a public forum.”
Happy to have been a help to you.
Now, find your own answers, lazy.
Talk about another example of 'the one' who does not read, and comprehend.
You really ought to start wearing a muzzle.
And since you’re obviously scouting around for helpful information then I’m happy to have been some help to you by posting information that has made you realise how useless it was.
Better luck next time. Just don’t ask me that’s all. You’ll be better off looking elsewhere that would be more helpful for you.
Maybe try extracting it from your own mind.
Information doesn’t belong to any body exclusively, it’s infinite and freely available to read by every single reader on the planet.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:50 pm
by accelafine
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:41 pm
Of course. Philosophy is not easy.
For you, clearly, or anything else--going by the evidence.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:23 am
by Age
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:30 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:42 am
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 9:58 am
“Which is, really, not very helpful, especially in a public forum.”
Happy to have been a help to you.
Now, find your own answers, lazy.
Talk about another example of 'the one' who does not read, and comprehend.
You really ought to start wearing a muzzle.
And since you’re obviously scouting around for helpful information then I’m happy to have been some help to you by posting information that has made you realise how useless it was.
Better luck next time. Just don’t ask me that’s all. You’ll be better off looking elsewhere that would be more helpful for you.
Maybe try extracting it from your own mind.
1. 'you' nor 'I' have our own minds.
2. 'you' are 'the one' making claims. 'I' am 'the one' trying to extract whether you, also, know the reason why you would make claims that are absolutely False and/or an absolute impossibility to exist. I can not extract 'the reason' whether 'you' know, or do not know, why you continue to make False and Wrong claims, here.
Although 'I' already know why you do, whether you know 'why', or not, 'I' do not yet know, absolutely. Only 'you' can provide those types of answers. As 'I' have explained to 'you', previously.
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:30 pm
Information doesn’t belong to any body exclusively,
you seem to believe it does. As it is 'you' who tells others you are not going to provide information, and that it is up to them to find out from "themselves".
Which, obviously, is another absolute contradiction, of yours.
Just how many times are 'you' going to contradict "your" 'self', here, in this forum?
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:30 pm
it’s infinite and freely available to read by every single reader on the planet.
So, where does one 'read' 'the reason' why 'you' keep contradicting "your" 'self', here, exactly?
Where, exactly, does one 'find' 'the answer' as to whether you have yet seen the Wrong and False claims that you have made, here?
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:34 am
by Age
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:22 pm
accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:15 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:21 am
What's even weirder is that my own words typed on the Internet don't feel like they're mine anymore. It's like I'm a different person from the one who typed the words only a few minutes ago. I wonder if knowledge changes the future, meaning when we learn something new, we deviate from the trajectory we were once on? Is that possible? Or are we doomed to continue in the direction we were headed at the time before we learned something?
It does tie in with the whole 'no free will' thing. If the future already exists then obviously there's nothing we can do to change it. When you really think about it 'now' does seem like a rather absurd concept (not to mention an arrogant one). But it begs the question, if we have memories of our 'past', then why don't we have them of our 'future'? (or do we?)
But if the future already existed it would be the past not the future; determinism does not imply predicting the future , that would be fatalism not determinism.
There is no "trajectory". The future is absolutely open, although we can calculate probabilities.
As for the free will thing, what we have is a mixture of chance and choice, which is not the same as metaphysical "Free Will".
Again, because absolutely every thing is relative, to the observer, the fact that 'the future' has, or has not yet happened, (exactly like every other topic of discussion, here), is depended upon from who and/or whats perspective, exactly.
As I alluded to earlier, here, if there is a 'being' on a planet, let 'us' say, 10 billion years away from earth, right 'now' at 'the moment' of reading this sentence, then, to them, 'you', and, "your future", has already obviously happened.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:35 am
by Fairy
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:23 am
1. 'you' nor 'I' have our own minds.
2. 'you' are 'the one' making claims. 'I' am 'the one' trying to extract whether you, also, know the reason why you would make claims that are absolutely False and/or an absolute impossibility to exist. I can not extract 'the reason' whether 'you' know, or do not know, why you continue to make False and Wrong claims, here.
Although 'I' already know why you do, whether you know 'why', or not, 'I' do not yet know, absolutely. Only 'you' can provide those types of answers. As 'I' have explained to 'you', previously.
you seem to believe it does. As it is 'you' who tells others you are not going to provide information, and that it is up to them to find out from "themselves".
Which, obviously, is another absolute contradiction, of yours.
Just how many times are 'you' going to contradict "your" 'self', here, in this forum?
So, where does one 'read' 'the reason' why 'you' keep contradicting "your" 'self', here, exactly?
Where, exactly, does one 'find' 'the answer' as to whether you have yet seen the Wrong and False claims that you have made, here?
When have you ever experienced another mind?
If you could experience another mind, where would that take place?
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:57 am
by Belinda
accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:50 pm
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:41 pm
Of course. Philosophy is not easy.
For you, clearly, or anything else--going by the evidence.
I enjoy exercising my brain like somebody else enjoys exercising their muscles
You should stop being rude as it makes you seem defensive .
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:05 pm
by Belinda
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:34 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:22 pm
accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:15 am
It does tie in with the whole 'no free will' thing. If the future already exists then obviously there's nothing we can do to change it. When you really think about it 'now' does seem like a rather absurd concept (not to mention an arrogant one). But it begs the question, if we have memories of our 'past', then why don't we have them of our 'future'? (or do we?)
But if the future already existed it would be the past not the future; determinism does not imply predicting the future , that would be fatalism not determinism.
There is no "trajectory". The future is absolutely open, although we can calculate probabilities.
As for the free will thing, what we have is a mixture of chance and choice, which is not the same as metaphysical "Free Will".
Again, because absolutely every thing is relative, to the observer, the fact that 'the future' has, or has not yet happened, (exactly like every other topic of discussion, here), is depended upon from who and/or whats perspective, exactly.
As I alluded to earlier, here, if there is a 'being' on a planet, let 'us' say, 10 billion years away from earth, right 'now' at 'the moment' of reading this sentence, then, to them, 'you', and, "your future", has already obviously happened.
When I claim anything I expect readers to take it for granted that my claim is mine and not that of some overarching authority, and that no reader is on a faraway planet.
Re: Relax. You've already died.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:24 pm
by accelafine
Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:57 am
accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:50 pm
Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 12:41 pm
Of course. Philosophy is not easy.
For you, clearly, or anything else--going by the evidence.
I enjoy exercising my brain like somebody else enjoys exercising their muscles
You should stop being rude as it makes you seem defensive .
And you seem condescending. Perhaps candy crush or online scrabble would be better suited to you.
