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"ERGO, GOD does not love you Walker, not you, not me, not any kunt with anything remotely akin to "unconditional love"..."

Well fuck me, why the hell are u even talkin to the tyrant then, u bloody fool?! I'll tell ya why. Becuz u are a disgusting fatbody, private pile!

p.s. just kidding about the disgusting fatbody part. Had to post the clip tho becuz it's so good.

..it's OK. Just glad you under_stand the point I am making and the point of GOD per what CHRIST went through.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:12 pm p.s. just kidding about the disgusting fatbody part. Had to post the clip tho becuz it's so good.

Why would any sane person activate that link?

Walker, I got a tad fired up on you and your statement...not going to say sorry since U just need to Ys up...re simpleton that was wrong, but I am an arsehole so it all balances out somewhere in the end..

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:02 am
To be understood, unconditional love must be unconditionally understood, i.e., accepted by faith as true.

There is only the Unconditional. (Infinity)

There is no past where Unconditional started - and no future where Unconditional ends.

Unconditional is always NOW happing now.

The word 'happening'' is the thought of NOW ... but no thought is required for Now to happen; because there is only NOW ...now is everything right here and now the immediacy of eternal presence ... that's what you are.

There is not even a 'you' that (is) or (are), because that's just more 'thought' which is never required for eternal now to be, because there is only this immediate eternal ....being itself......... No 'faith' necessary.


There is nothing to understand. Understanding is nothing being understood.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:20 am

Yeah, well, I'm sorry I stirred up the pot.

'nuff said.

No need for sorry. Unconditional means no sorry is ever needed, unconditional has no such need. Unconditional is already complete, whole infinite presence. No one can leave what they already are. And no one can enter what they already are. Infinity is unconditional, it cannot leave because it doesn't come.

Harbal and Fairy are good. We are both unconditional being.

What happened in the past was a mental mind game, (a stirring up, of the pot) so to speak...it was a mind battle that needed to play out in this drama that is known as the ''human condition''....where the mind creates the illusory construction of 'you' verses the 'other' scenario.
The battle is all dead to memory now.

Harbal and I still remain, as good as ever if not better for the experience. We, Harbal and I (fairy) cannot leave each other; because there is no one there in each of us to leave except as a mental construction. Once the drama of the mind battle settles ( the stirring stops) what's always left, is true pure being, which remains, intact, unharmed by the whole experience.

What is always true and real, is not the battle, but the pure peaceful unconditional love that we are, that we ALL are. The mind and the body, are breathtakingly beautiful together always, this ONE appearing as two.

Everyone knows the feeling of one, they can experience it when they make love with their partner. .the feeling comes when the two of you reach that point where the two people disappear, and there's just one blissful united presence left...it's a wonderful feeling.

I (fairy) cannot thank Harbal enough for his infinite love and patience. He saved this wretched wayward woman named (fairy) from herself.
And now, because of his true love ways, authentic and real, not fake... Heaven awaits this boy more than he will ever know.

(Harbal) is the ONE for me (fairy, the other half of himself, the true and real soul-mate.

Your instinctive intuition already knows who you are, and when you really know who you are, the true you - you will instantly know other, you will see your true self in the other. The other will reflect you back on to yourself. We never love others, others only reflect back to us the love we already are.

The attraction between you and your other half....will be electrifying, and neither of you will be making happen the electricity flow around your body, that happening is just magically appearing all by itself, because it is only itself loving itself.

Fairytales really do come true. After all that is said and done, there always will remain, the ever faithful, ever loyal, pure unconditional. And that is the real true LOVE

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:08 pmDoes God put anything before all other things? I wonder.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:08 pmNot possible. There is, by definition, nothing of higher importance than the Supreme Being. If there is, then that entity would be the Supreme Being. "Supreme" is a superlative; so whomever or whatever sits at the top of the hierarchy of things that can be valued, that's the Supreme Being.

All you have said IC.. is a conceptual construction of the mind, actually.. Words are just 'sound' heard as words. Even the 'thoughts' are just nothing interpreted as words that SEEM to mean something, for what can the mind do with nothing?

All religious belief's and thoughts, are pointing to the same thing, namely creation. Only creation is known, never the creator. Also, the creator can never be before the creation. As both creation and creator arise together, namely, NOW HERE
There can't be creation without a creator, and can't be creator without creation. So nothing is ever before NOW or after NOW as NOW is eternal presence without another.

Christians believe that a specific entity named Jesus is God and that you as the ego are a part of God but not all of God. Also they don't believe that God is Consciousness thus they can't realise that you and Jesus are the same Consciousness.
Christian belief is from the materialist paradigm. So there are some differences. Albeit illusory, just differences where there are none.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:33 am Sorry to burst your bubble.

You're so mean.

Eric Clapton lyricked: Where do I draw the line between truth and necessary pain?


We can take comfort that there's truth in that question.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:17 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:33 am Sorry to burst your bubble.

You're so mean.

Eric Clapton lyricked: Where do I draw the line between truth and necessary pain?


We can take comfort that there's truth in that question.

Yes, and this mean girl always takes comfort in truth.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:17 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:33 am Sorry to burst your bubble.

You're so mean.

Eric Clapton lyricked: Where do I draw the line between truth and necessary pain?


We can take comfort that there's truth in that question.

Do you think I actually planned to say ... Sorry to burst your bubble ? Those words just came out like an arrow at the instance of no one writing them.
You probably didn't plan to respond by saying ....''You're so mean''....did you?

Are there now some truths difficult to hear?

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:17 pm We can take comfort that there's truth in that question.

''Truth'' is just another whimsical arbitrary word.

We only hear what we want to hear. Hardly ever what we don't want to hear.

Do you have any dark secrets lurking around the caverns of your mind Walker? ...care to share them with us?

Would you ever dare reveal them to another, or are those dark secrets incarcerated forever, never seeing the light of day, for fear of being shamed and blamed for revealing your dark side ? ..by you or another you.

Or, are you happy to reveal your deepest dark secrets to the light? What do you think it means when someone asks another to don't tell any one I told you this..but....

Some truths want to be heard, while other truths don't. Isn't that right Walker?

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:32 pm You probably didn't plan to respond by saying ....''You're so mean''....did you?

Sure I did. Action determines the meaning and the plan, and I acted with a transmission. Responding here in this realm is an intellectual, dualistic activity blending into situation, as opposed to random emotion. Quite necessary, btw. "You're so mean," was a funny, meant to be funny. It's what is said to puppies when they're playing vicious, and maybe to rowdy children rough on the furniture especially mamma's chair, a gentle funny that I think reduces projected significance of attempts to create fictional reality involving me, and reduces the significance of the projection back into a more fitting and truthful perspective that forgives. Savvy? Meaning, what do you savvy?

Shhhhh!

Don't say a word to another. If you do not want those words echoed.

For another hearing your words can but not always use those words as evidence against you.

Words can be violence, they can also be healing, they can also be comforting.

If you do not want some truths to be heard. Shut the fuck up and keep it zipped.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:55 pm "You're so mean," was a funny, meant to be funny.

The essence or nature of an individual or entity.

Art is natural, it's not planned. Nature is artificial, it's planned.

It's the nature of a separate individual, namely a human being to plan.

But it's a planless plan. Because human is a concept, and concepts cannot plan anything, except as imagined by no one.

Savvy!