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Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:37 am
by Lacewing
henry quirk wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:59 am
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:41 am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:26 pm Correction: if atheists are right, he would have no objective reason not run around murdering people for their lunch money.
Correction: if atheists are right, he would have no imagined objective reason not to run around murdering people for their lunch money.
So: if atheists are wrong, he would have a imagined objective reason not to run around murdering for lunch money?
Regardless of atheists, he'll be the person he is regardless of what he imagines. :)

Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:29 am
by henry quirk
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:37 amRegardless of atheists, he'll be the person he is regardless of what he imagines. :)
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That non-response is sumthin' I'd expect from DAM, not you. You're a hippy, but you're not stupid.

Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:58 pm
by Gary Childress
henry quirk wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:26 pm
if...Atheists are right, then according to IC, he would have no reason not run around murdering people for their lunch money
Correction: if atheists are right, he would have no objective reason not run around murdering people for their lunch money.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't but, then I'm "insane". Therefore, I yield the floor to "sane" people like you.

Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:12 pm
by Lacewing
henry quirk wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:29 am
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:37 amRegardless of atheists, he'll be the person he is regardless of what he imagines. :)
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That non-response is sumthin' I'd expect from DAM, not you. You're a hippy, but you're not stupid.
Hey, that's the response I felt like giving you because I didn't think your question was particularly interesting or sensible. Even if there's a god, I.C.'s reasons for not murdering people can be based on his own imaginary objective reason -- whereas other people (theist or non-theist) may just know they don't want to murder people. Nobody needs a god to tell them that. The whole idea of an objective reason is imagined.

Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:14 pm
by henry quirk
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:12 pm Even if there's a god, I.C.'s reasons for not murdering people can be based on his own imaginary objective reason
Like I said...
henry quirk wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:26 pm(if atheists are right) (he) might have a whole whack of subjective reasonings (opinions or preferences) on why he ought not off someone for lunch money, but he'd have no objective measure of right or wrong.
...so if you wanna recast subjective as imaginary objective I guess you can.

Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:21 pm
by henry quirk
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:58 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:26 pm
if...Atheists are right, then according to IC, he would have no reason not run around murdering people for their lunch money
Correction: if atheists are right, he would have no objective reason not run around murdering people for their lunch money.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't but, then I'm "insane". Therefore, I yield the floor to "sane" people like you.
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Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:42 pm
by Lacewing
henry quirk wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:14 pm
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:12 pm Even if there's a god, I.C.'s reasons for not murdering people can be based on his own imaginary objective reason
Like I said...
henry quirk wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:26 pm(if atheists are right) (he) might have a whole whack of subjective reasonings (opinions or preferences) on why he ought not off someone for lunch money, but he'd have no objective measure of right or wrong.
...so if you wanna recast subjective as imaginary objective I guess you can.
Whatever, Henry. I was following the flow and spirit of the posts.

Re: Taking a stand

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:22 pm
by henry quirk
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:42 pm
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