Philosophy Now Forum

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:18 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:10 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:09 pm Okay, but I think that attitude explains why your country is in the state it is. You don't seem to have moved on from the Wild West in some respects.

And you think that's the guns' fault? Heh!

Only if the fix was that easy.

Yes it is the gun fault, because all the mass shootings have involved guns, not lollipops.

And all the mass-murders have involved humans. Even before we had guns to do mass-shootings with.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:18 pm Everyday here in England we are hearing nearly everday now about how there is one mass shooting after another in the US.

You should consider moving to Switzerland. They have way more guns and way less crime/murder/violence than the UK.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:19 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:16 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:14 pm
I can answer. I don't want to.

That's how rights work.

So anyone has the right to kill anyone and rape anyone (so long as someone that has a gun doesn't impede them)?

So you don't understand how rights work.

You don't have the right to own an AR15 here, just as much as I don't have the right to rape your wife there.

Do i understand?

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:20 pm No, I think it's your fault, and your national gun passion. How can you accept that you need a gun to feel safe?

Good thing I care much more about being safe than feeling safe.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:22 pm You don't have the right to own an AR15 here, just as much as I don't have the right to rape your wife there.

Do i understand?

And which law (if broken) would be a victimless crime?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:24 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:22 pm You don't have the right to own an AR15 here, just as much as I don't have the right to rape your wife there.

Do i understand?

So you are equating ownership of an AR15 with rape?

OK, misanthrope.

Just equating rights.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:05 pm
Why do you think EVERYONE owning guns is not sensible?

Answer the fucking question.

No. Fuck you.

Make me answer it.

You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:26 pm You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns.

When did you stop beating your wife?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:21 pm
You should consider moving to Switzerland. They have way more guns and way less crime/murder/violence than the UK.

Then why doesn't the US take on Switzerlands example of reducing or elimininating crime/murder/violence?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:28 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:26 pm You can't answer it because you know it is irrational, not at all sensible to allow EVERYONE to own guns.

When did you stop beating your wife?

I didn't.

Fuck this, your wife could probably do with a decent rape shag anyway..let her know I have the means if she can't be bothered to find a place to hide.

I'll be back with the same question tomorrow.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:28 pm Then why doesn't the US take on Switzerlands example of reducing or elimininating crime/murder/violence?

Sure.

What did Switzerland do to reduce/eliminate those things?

It doesn't seem to me they even had that problem to start with.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:28 pm
When did you stop beating your wife?

When men and women became self taught Shaolin monks.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:32 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:28 pm Then why doesn't the US take on Switzerlands example of reducing or elimininating crime/murder/violence?

Sure.

What did Switzerland do to reduce/eliminate those things?

It doesn't seem to me they even had that problem to start with.

Ok, so why is there a problem in the US ..it's in the news daily, mass shooting almost happening on a daily basis now. Why?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:36 pm Ok, so why is there a problem in the US ..it's in the news daily, mass shooting almost happening on a daily basis now. Why?

Fuck knows. Why isn't a useful question.

"What can we do to stop it?" is a more useful question.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:00 pmIt's not punishment to register a gun and hold a licence for it.

That's not the issue I'm addressing.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:23 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:20 pm No, I think it's your fault, and your national gun passion. How can you accept that you need a gun to feel safe?

Good thing I care much more about being safe than feeling safe.

But you have absolutely no control over being safe anywhere or at anytime where-ever you are, or whatever you are doing. Just being alive is a huge risk, a risk we are all taking. Even as we reproduce, we are gambling with another persons safety and well being. We are our only predator, and yet we have no problem with that, because the proof is so self-evident everytime we reproduce, we willingly invite someone else to run the risky guantlet that is our predatory nature.

I guess we'll only stop when we have all had enough of the hurting we cause each other. So far, we seem to be fine with it, nothing seems to change much.