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commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:19 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:55 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:55 pm

Just curious—in what country do you live?

USA.

You sound pretty stable to me—aside from any times you are in crisis, would you describe yourself as high functioning?

I'm a little higher functioning than some maybe. Not as high functioning as others.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:07 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:19 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:55 pm

USA.

You sound pretty stable to me—aside from any times you are in crisis, would you describe yourself as high functioning?

I'm a little higher functioning than some maybe. Not as high functioning as others.

Care to compare meds?

At one time or another, I’ve been on:

Lamotragine
Depakote
Cogentin
Bupropion
Venlafaxine
Lurasadone
And unnamed others that I’ve had,also

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:44 pm
Depakote
Cogentin
Bupropion

I remember those 3. I'm still on Bupropion.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:10 am

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:44 pm
Depakote
Cogentin
Bupropion

I remember those 3. I'm still on Bupropion.

You lucky dog! I’m on 4 of them right now.

Here's my portfolio:

Ritalin
Nortriptyline
Buspar
Mellaril
Thorazine

I wuz on one or the other until age fourteen when the judge ruled that I had no reason to be in the cuckoo's nest and let me out. The old man wuz pissed lol. Only time a judge ever did me a favor.

But I used to be around kids so doped up they looked like zombies. McBride building wuz the real deal... the criminally insane kids/adults. That wuzzint my building but we went to McBride for various reasons (rec time, physicals, tests, etc) often and got to see em. I'm twelve years old in a fuckin mental institution and the worst thing I ever did wuz carry a pocket knife to school. Crazy people everywhere. The most ghastly human sounds you'd ever hear. Like on some dungeon level cell block silence of the lambs shit. People in straightjackets peering at u through the little square window on the doors of their cells as your group passes by on the way to the gym. Bro twelve year old normal kids do not need to see that shit thank u.

And literally every ten minutes they'd call a 'pit major' over the hospital wide speaker system. That's an emergency situation where a team would be called to whatever location and restrain some patient tryna kill somebody or resisting instructions or bashing his own head into a wall, whatever. And u knew it everytime u heard it; somebody wuz in a world of shit and it wuz about to get even worse. Bad place man. Not good times. Not good times a'tall.

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:27 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:10 am

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:44 pm
Depakote
Cogentin
Bupropion

I remember those 3. I'm still on Bupropion.

You lucky dog! I’m on 4 of them right now.

Sounds like we're both "lucky dogs". We seem to have won a human lottery, for what it's worth.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:13 am We seem to have won a human lottery, for what it's worth.

A fertile male human ejaculates between 2 and 5 mililiters(ml) of semen (on average about a teaspoon). In each ml there are normally about 100 million sperm.

The likelihood of you existing at all is like winning the euro lottery.

But then, for every sperm that didn't make it, they have no sense of never making it anyway, so it's always going to be about the ONE who did, and that one must be the same feeling for everyone. In other words you could have been any one. Any any one is every one.

So it's like you are just watching yourself in your own movie of life...you could walk out of the movie at anytime, or you could just stay and watch it all until the end.

Personally, I'm going to hang around and watch the movie until the end, I might as well see how it ends. Why watch a film about yourself, and then never know how it ends, might as well stick around to watch the ending, that's what I am going to do.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:06 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:13 am We seem to have won a human lottery, for what it's worth.

A fertile male human ejaculates between 2 and 5 mililiters(ml) of semen (on average about a teaspoon). In each ml there are normally about 100 million sperm.

The likelihood of you existing at all is like winning the euro lottery.

But then, for every sperm that didn't make it, they have no sense of never making it anyway, so it's always going to be about the ONE who did, and that one must be the same feeling for everyone. In other words you could have been any one. Any any one is every one.

So it's like you are just watching yourself in your own movie of life...you could walk out of the movie at anytime, or you could just stay and watch it all until the end.

Personally, I'm going to hang around and watch the movie until the end, I might as well see how it ends. Why watch a film about yourself, and then never know how it ends, might as well stick around to watch the ending, that's what I am going to do.

But when the ending arrives, will you be aware (of it)?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:06 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:13 am We seem to have won a human lottery, for what it's worth.

A fertile male human ejaculates between 2 and 5 mililiters(ml) of semen (on average about a teaspoon). In each ml there are normally about 100 million sperm.

The likelihood of you existing at all is like winning the euro lottery.

But then, for every sperm that didn't make it, they have no sense of never making it anyway, so it's always going to be about the ONE who did, and that one must be the same feeling for everyone. In other words you could have been any one. Any any one is every one.

So it's like you are just watching yourself in your own movie of life...you could walk out of the movie at anytime, or you could just stay and watch it all until the end.

Personally, I'm going to hang around and watch the movie until the end, I might as well see how it ends. Why watch a film about yourself, and then never know how it ends, might as well stick around to watch the ending, that's what I am going to do.

If that is the case, then I will do my best to ensure a good ending for you on Earth, if that's even possible for human being. I tried to do the same for my father who passed away recently, however, I am vexed with the decision I made. He was on life support and the prognosis of getting off life support was not good and the prognosis of living in a facility being fed from a tube in his throat and a dialysis machine to perform the necessary functions of his kidney was very high. My dad specifically requested in his living will that he not be subjected to those things, nor did he wish to be an overburden to his family or anyone else. I carried out the wishes of my father. I made the choice to end his life support. I must live with that decision. I may never see him again or maybe there's some "afterlife" or something. I don't know. Either way, I hope I made the right choice.

BTW: I made the decision with the doctors to end life support. I did not take matters into my own hands, in case anyone thinks that. But I digress (though I feel a need to have explained further).

Of course, you'll probably last longer on Earth than I will. If so, then I'll do what I can while I'm here to keep things as hospitable for you as I can.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:06 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:13 am We seem to have won a human lottery, for what it's worth.

A fertile male human ejaculates between 2 and 5 mililiters(ml) of semen (on average about a teaspoon). In each ml there are normally about 100 million sperm.

The likelihood of you existing at all is like winning the euro lottery.

But then, for every sperm that didn't make it, they have no sense of never making it anyway, so it's always going to be about the ONE who did, and that one must be the same feeling for everyone. In other words you could have been any one. Any any one is every one.

So it's like you are just watching yourself in your own movie of life...you could walk out of the movie at anytime, or you could just stay and watch it all until the end.

Personally, I'm going to hang around and watch the movie until the end, I might as well see how it ends. Why watch a film about yourself, and then never know how it ends, might as well stick around to watch the ending, that's what I am going to do.

But when the ending arrives, will you be aware (of it)?

No of course not that’s the whole point there is no ending there are only new beginnings.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:44 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:06 am

A fertile male human ejaculates between 2 and 5 mililiters(ml) of semen (on average about a teaspoon). In each ml there are normally about 100 million sperm.

The likelihood of you existing at all is like winning the euro lottery.

But then, for every sperm that didn't make it, they have no sense of never making it anyway, so it's always going to be about the ONE who did, and that one must be the same feeling for everyone. In other words you could have been any one. Any any one is every one.

So it's like you are just watching yourself in your own movie of life...you could walk out of the movie at anytime, or you could just stay and watch it all until the end.

Personally, I'm going to hang around and watch the movie until the end, I might as well see how it ends. Why watch a film about yourself, and then never know how it ends, might as well stick around to watch the ending, that's what I am going to do.

But when the ending arrives, will you be aware (of it)?

No of course not that’s the whole point there is no ending there are only new beginnings.

Agree.

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:07 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:44 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22 pm

But when the ending arrives, will you be aware (of it)?

No of course not that’s the whole point there is no ending there are only new beginnings.

Agree.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:44 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:06 am

A fertile male human ejaculates between 2 and 5 mililiters(ml) of semen (on average about a teaspoon). In each ml there are normally about 100 million sperm.

The likelihood of you existing at all is like winning the euro lottery.

But then, for every sperm that didn't make it, they have no sense of never making it anyway, so it's always going to be about the ONE who did, and that one must be the same feeling for everyone. In other words you could have been any one. Any any one is every one.

So it's like you are just watching yourself in your own movie of life...you could walk out of the movie at anytime, or you could just stay and watch it all until the end.

Personally, I'm going to hang around and watch the movie until the end, I might as well see how it ends. Why watch a film about yourself, and then never know how it ends, might as well stick around to watch the ending, that's what I am going to do.

But when the ending arrives, will you be aware (of it)?

No of course not that’s the whole point there is no ending there are only new beginnings.

But, it could be said and argued, that there are NO new beginnings either, and that there is just a CONTINUOUS FLOW of CHANGE.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:50 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:44 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:22 pm

But when the ending arrives, will you be aware (of it)?

No of course not that’s the whole point there is no ending there are only new beginnings.

But, it could be said and argued, that there are NO new beginnings either, and that there is just a CONTINUOUS FLOW of CHANGE.

While every ending is a new beginning, all new beginnings end. But these changes are but appearances within the timeless non-moving now.

Reality in realtime is always linear in the sense that realtime is observed to be as though time is a long endless procession(emanation) of a series of sequential frames of referrence. In other words, time seems to be able to move forward and backward both, but that's not what is really happening, it's only ever this timeless non-moving now. 'Flow' implies movement and change, but that's just a concept, that in reality nothing is really moving or changing. It only appears to be.