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Some are just followin' orders cuz it a job. Some truly believe in a resurgent Soviet State. Some are aimless and are comfortable bein' directed, and some have or will fight for other side.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:52 pmGood point. I suppose it would be better to ask the Russian soldiers why they are fighting Putin's war for him and for them to put down their weapons and apply civil disobedience.
Actually, my point is more in the way of suggesting that what's true of Putin is true of you and I too.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm dasein...how Putin's past predisposed him to think this instead of that
Yes, we know...there's nuthin' more to Putin, or you, or me, or him, or her than a program.
Roombas: all.
If, and WHEN, these questions are answered Honestly, then how much 'relevance' there REALLY IS will be REVEALED.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:41 amSee how you fixate on the irrelevant?Age wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:46 pm1. How, EXACTLY, does an "autistic" write?henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:26 pm
Oh, I'm a far bigger pain in the ass than you, and I'm crazier too.
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This...
...this a good example.
2. If that is a "good example" of "autistic writing", then what is 'it', EXACTLY, which makes "those words" appear AUTISTIC, to you?
3. Do you understand what I am saying and meaning in 'those words'? If no, then WHY NOT?
4. If you were to just say, "because it is autistic writing", then I and others could also just make the claim that your writings are "'autistic writings" when we just do not understand what you are saying and meaning?
5. What does the word 'autistic' even mean, or refer to, to you?
6. If you do NOT understand what "another" is saying, then has it NEVER come to 'thought', nor occurred to you, to just question the "other" about what 'it' is EXACTLY that they are actually meaning? Or, if you have, then do you just not want to understand and learn more, and so do NOT question the "other"? After all 'you' have certainly NOT questioned 'me' about my writings and preferred to just SAY and CLAIM they are "autistic writings".
7. And, are you sure I only have one and only "problem"? If yes, then if I could solve 'this' "writing like an austistic" so-called "problem", then, to you, would 'you', human beings, then be able to FULLY understand my writings?
Oh, and by the way, when and IF 'you' ever work out, or learn, and discover 'Who and what 'I' am', EXACTLY, then what I have SAID and WROTE above will make PERFECT SENSE. So, what appears as "autistic writing", to some, may well EXPLAIN a GREAT DEAL, to "others".
We will just have to WAIT, to SEE.
ACCUSATIONS, or CLAIMS, were MADE. What I do with THEM is my CHOICE.
We notice that 'you' have NOT YET STOPPED. Do 'you' put these SAME 'labels' onto 'you' as well?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:41 am Classic autistic/aspergers/or whatever the fuck label they give insanity these days, behaviour.
'you', people, say and write 'things'. I CAN ask questions, challenge, or point out and show 'things' in response if I want to.
FOr example - the western media have chosen to de-select information about the activities of the Azov batallion in east Ukraine against separatists after the 2014 west backed coup. And the pov of the ethnic russians in Ukraine.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:21 pmYes. All that seems very true to me as well.Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:42 pmYes that was the early dream of the Internet but things are not turning out too well ATM.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pm
Yes. I think this is the way of the future. Also, the executive power of US Presidents must be curtailed to exclude the ability to declare war without the consent of the American people. And there needs to be a free press that will report things objectively and not just the way official sources want them to be reported. I think something like that would best be achieved through the decentralization of media ownership.
I think we see the paradox between anarchy and control.
Control needed to keep to the facts, and the anarchy needed to avoid those facts being engineered for the agenda of sectional and powerful interests.
There is no objectivity here. All facts are selective.
Has ANY war succeeded?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:02 pmI totally agree.That's so true.
Thing is, so it seems to me, the world doesn't want war, it's the last thing on peoples minds...and thanks to the expansion of knowledge via the internet, people today have grown a proper frontal lobe and realised they can think and act for themselves and make their own intelligent sensible informed decisions about how to live their lives in a harmonious and peaceful way.
World Leaders cannot make people listen and look up to them by force, so this war is doomed to fail for Russia, on that one basic principle alone.
Just KILL human beings DEAD, oh, and DESTROY property. What else is there to KNOW about how to conduct war?
But 'civil disobedience' only encourages the one/s who created the 'rules' to PUNISH more and further. That is; the more disobedience there is, then the harsher and stricter the 'penalties' become, until and and EVERY 'one' who is DISOBEDIENT ends up 'locked up' or 'dead', which then makes the 'rest' to scared to 'disobey' the 'made up rules'. As can be CLEARLY SEEN, and is PROVED True, within EVERY country, and especially in ones like in "north korea".Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pmYes. I think this is the way of the future.Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:40 pmI would advise any and all Ukrainians to put down their weapons and apply civil disobediance - why fight the capitialsist war for them?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:27 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sajngb0W6I
While old men talk - young men die - I wasn't really sure what was going on....
See how long Putin can control Ukraine when no one obeys, and see how long his own political support in Russia would last.
WHY 'would you' and WHY 'did you', adult human beings, give that sort of POWER to one human being in the FIRST PLACE?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pm Also, the executive power of US Presidents must be curtailed to exclude the ability to declare war without the consent of the American people.
STOP giving POWER to 'some people', and to "the press", and then "they" will STOP reporting 'things', and then 'things' WILL CHANGE.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pm And there needs to be a free press that will report things objectively and not just the way official sources want them to be reported.
Just STOP WANTING and 'buying' completely UNNECESSARY 'things', then "the media" has NO other purpose than to just report what is ONLY and ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pm I think something like that would best be achieved through the decentralization of media ownership.
To be honest, Age, I don't think it serves any constructive purpose to blame the rest of us for what is happening any more than it serves a constructive purpose to include yourself in that blame. I doubt people not buying things we need in order to stop the press from being privately owned and manipulated by corporations is going to work. As far as giving power to others, there's no one in office right now whom I voted for in the last election. So you'll have to find someone else to blame for all the world's problems, preferably someone other than yourself, I'm sure.Age wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:01 pmBut 'civil disobedience' only encourages the one/s who created the 'rules' to PUNISH more and further. That is; the more disobedience there is, then the harsher and stricter the 'penalties' become, until and and EVERY 'one' who is DISOBEDIENT ends up 'locked up' or 'dead', which then makes the 'rest' to scared to 'disobey' the 'made up rules'. As can be CLEARLY SEEN, and is PROVED True, within EVERY country, and especially in ones like in "north korea".Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pmYes. I think this is the way of the future.Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:40 pm
I would advise any and all Ukrainians to put down their weapons and apply civil disobediance - why fight the capitialsist war for them?
See how long Putin can control Ukraine when no one obeys, and see how long his own political support in Russia would last.
Also, because of 'generational child abuse' ALL of 'you', adult human beings, have a BELIEF that; "If MY RULES a 'disobeyed', then you WILL BE PUNISHED".
'you', adults, HAVE and HOLD this BELIEF and SAY this, now, because this is what 'you' ALL CONTINUALLY heard as children.
When 'you' STOP BELIEVING, "If you do NOT do as I TELL YOU, then you WILL BE PUNISHED", then those that ARE 'above you' WILL EVENTUALLY STOP having and HOLDING 'this BELIEF', ALSO.
WHY 'would you' and WHY 'did you', adult human beings, give that sort of POWER to one human being in the FIRST PLACE?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pm Also, the executive power of US Presidents must be curtailed to exclude the ability to declare war without the consent of the American people.
And from what I have OBSERVED the ones 'you', people, give that POWER to, on just about EVERY occasion is the VERY LAST 'human being' I would give that POWER to.
But, as I say 'you' ARE completely and utterly FREE to do absolutely whatever you CHOOSE TO DO.STOP giving POWER to 'some people', and to "the press", and then "they" will STOP reporting 'things', and then 'things' WILL CHANGE.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pm And there needs to be a free press that will report things objectively and not just the way official sources want them to be reported.
Just STOP WANTING and 'buying' completely UNNECESSARY 'things', then "the media" has NO other purpose than to just report what is ONLY and ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:13 pm I think something like that would best be achieved through the decentralization of media ownership.
Because 'you', adult human beings, will BUY 'reports' and 'reporting', as well as 'products', "the media" exists solely to OBTAIN MONEY. Just about ALL of the "current media", in the days when this is being written, exists because of, and for, 'money' through SELLING 'information' and ADVERTISING. So, that "current media" will NOT let, "The Truth get in the way of a good story".
Most of 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, Honestly, much prefer to hear a so-called "good story", than thee Truth.
But the GREATEST 'story', EVER to be TOLD, WILL BE, and IS, thee Truth. But, anyway, the "current media", in the days when this is being written, SOLELY works around the 'premise of'; 'obtaining MORE money'.
Which is also about the SOLE 'premise' of EVERY adult human being, in the days when this was being written. Thus, the continuous conflict and WARS, hitherto when this was being written.
When 'you' learn how to SEE ALL 'things' for what they Truly ARE, then 'things' become MUCH CLEARER and APPEAR MUCH DIFFERENT.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:14 pmYep. It's the relentlessness of the questions, the obsession with minutia, the off-puttin' style, and the sheer volume of it all, that makes my eyes bleed.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:41 amSee how you fixate on the irrelevant? You just don't know when to stop. Classic autistic/aspergers/or whatever the fuck label they give insanity these days, behaviour. Get over yourself.
The ONLY 'thing' that was CLEARED UP, and which can be CLEARLY SEEN here, are the ' self-"justifications" ' for the OBVIOUS Wrongs BEING DONE.promethean75 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:54 pm I think we need to clear some things up here. Mr. Speaker, if you will please....
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_111767.htm
ONLY IF 'you' ALLOW "yourselves" to be "robots".henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm dasein...how Putin's past predisposed him to think this instead of that
Yes, we know...there's nuthin' more to Putin, or you, or me, or him, or her than a program.
Roombas: all.