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Shaw has got it wrong. Those who can, do; those who believe others can, teach.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:19 pm Shaw was right, "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."
Every individual wants to produce wealth for only himself and only his family!commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:16 pm Not shared if every individual wants to produce wealth for only himself or only himself and his family.
Yes, the safety is real. I was referring to the idea that if real safety isn’t seen as real safety, the huddles would not have so much reason to huddle.Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:15 pmThe safety isn't perceived - it's actual.commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:09 pm Take the risk and opt out, or huddle in perceived safety by remaining in.
Doctors, sanitation, electricity, reliable source of food.
The price you pay for all of those comforts is all the responsibilities it comes with.
Yeah. Everybody wants real X for free...commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:30 pm Yes, the safety is real. I was referring to the idea that if real safety isn’t seen as real safety, the huddles would not have so much reason to huddle.
Yup.Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:36 pmYeah. Everybody wants real X for free...commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:30 pm Yes, the safety is real. I was referring to the idea that if real safety isn’t seen as real safety, the huddles would not have so much reason to huddle.
nopecommonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:43 pmYup.Skepdick wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:36 pmYeah. Everybody wants real X for free...commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:30 pm Yes, the safety is real. I was referring to the idea that if real safety isn’t seen as real safety, the huddles would not have so much reason to huddle.
What would you say is a fair price for drinkable water?henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:09 pm nope
some of us wanna pay a fair price...we go out of our way to do that
free shit (not really free...somebody is payn' for it, in some fashion) is a goddamned leash
Like it or not we have to be governed by rule of law and to my mind politicians are better than kings or war lords. The thing is to try to inform myself which politicians are honest and intelligent and which are not, and vote accordingly.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:14 pm What would you say is a fair price for drinkable water?
I can get a 16 oz bottle of nestle's water for 86 cents
seems fair to me
I pay about $50 monthly for water service, for two
seems fair to me
The point is that somebody has to do the work.
yeah, that's what I said
Part of politics is about who should bear the cost and how to collect on the bill.
no
all of politics is schmucks lookin' to make a dime on taxpayers
I have done so and hope I have learned to do better than that.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:16 pm Like it or not we have to be governed by rule of law and to my mind politicians are better than kings or war lords. The thing is to try to inform myself which politicians are honest and intelligent and which are not, and vote accordingly.
oh, I get it, I do
some folks need direction; some folks need to direct
you understand some folks want & need neither, yeah?
you confuse glibness & cleverness for honesty & intelligence
no such animalBelinda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:19 pmI have done so and hope I have learned to do better than that.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:16 pm Like it or not we have to be governed by rule of law and to my mind politicians are better than kings or war lords. The thing is to try to inform myself which politicians are honest and intelligent and which are not, and vote accordingly.
oh, I get it, I do
some folks need direction; some folks need to direct
you understand some folks want & need neither, yeah?
you confuse glibness & cleverness for honesty & intelligence
Certainly I understand some folks want liberty I want it for myself. But I can't have unlimited liberty as there are other people besides me to be considered if only because I need their goods and services.
Was it Hobbes or was it Rousseau who claimed just that? I cannot remember.bein' free is man's natural state, to self-direct & be self-responsible
I did not expect you to know. I hoped you might do some googling for me.