Age wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:53 pm
Who and/or what wants to understand itself?
I ALREADY KNOW thy Self.
I do NOT care what you have said previously. This is because when I ask you to clarify or explain 'you' say that 'you' can NOT clarify NOR explain. Therefore, it does NOT matter what you have said before.
If that 'self' can not explain its self, then that infers that it does NOT really understand what is said.
Did 'you' forget that what is said IS 'you'? And, if 'you' do NOT yet KNOW 'you', then you certainly do NOT know thy True Self.
'you' would first HAVE TO explain what is meant when it is stated 'your' AND 'consciousness'. What is the 'thing' which supposedly has 'consciousness'? What is 'consciousness'? Where is this 'thing' (the 'your') which has 'consciousness'? If this "dontaskme" character can NOT explain this in very simple and easy terms, then that is just MORE evidence that this "dontaskme" character REALLY has NO idea about what is said.
Also, please understand that I KNOW exactly who, what, why, and where this "dontaskme" character IS. I also KNOW how this "dontaskme" character came to be. Now, unlike this "donataskme" character I CAN completely back up and substantiate what I claim.
Would you like to 'try' and explain what 'your consciousness' ACTUALLY MEANS?
How many 'consciousness' is this "dontaskme" character suggests exist?
LOOK please understand that I ALREADY KNOW what 'you' are 'trying to' say. 'you' are just repeating very old views on this.
Once again, another human being using the 'mind' word, in connection with the 'your' word. Now, words are being used, but can the understanding of these words be SHOWN. If so, then do it. Otherwise I will take it that 'you' have NO idea what a 'mind' actually IS and how a 'mind' exists in relation to a 'your'.
And how many times does it take for this "dontaskme" character to catch on that 'I' do NOT believe any thing?
Please listen to ME. I do NOT believe any thing, so I will NOT just start to believe any thing, including 'you', just because you ask or want 'me' to.
Once again, WHY does this "dontaskme" make what is essential VERY SIMPLE and VERY EASY to understand seem so complex and hard to understand?
Also, WHY is it so important for what is said, under the disguise of this "dontaskme" character, to be accepted and agreed with? It is like this "dontaskme" character is NOTHING AT ALL if it is NOT heard, NOT listened to, and NOT accepted and NOT agreed with 100%.
When 'I' tell 'you' some thing, do 'you' listen to it?
If no, then WHY do 'you' expect "others" to listen to 'you'?
'you' have SHOWN that 'you' are completely incapable of listening. But 'you' BELIEVE so strongly that what is said is 100% true and correct, therefore what is said under the disguise of "dontaskme" SHOULD be HEARD and ACCEPTED.
The contradictory nature of 'you', human beings, never ceases to amaze.
Please understand that ALL OF THIS is OLD KNOWLEDGE, and thus ALREADY KNOWN. Please also understand that the way it is explained from the "dontaskme" character is VERY OLD and the cause of WHY 'you', human beings, still can NOT SEE and GRASP thee actual Truth of things yet.
I do this so that IF you answer, then the CONTRADICTION is even CLEARER. This is to make sure that I am NOT putting words in "your mouth". But where the words come from exactly are KNOWN.
LOL instead of being at all OPEN 'you' JUMP straight into an ASSUMPTION, which, by the way, could not be MORE WRONG.
Any human being can say they understand any thing. But to back this up, then they have to SHOW this. 'you' have FAILED EVERY time to SHOW that 'you' Truly understand any of this.
WHY do you ask the most ridiculous questions?
Finally I get 'you' to SEE what I have been saying from the outset.
But, from previous conversations, this will inevitably change.
The difference with 'us' is 'you' BELIEVE that explaining this Self with words is IMPOSSIBLE. Whereas, to 'me' explaining this Self with words is very simple and very easy indeed.
'you' BELIEVE that words will only cause disconnection, whereas I KNOW words can cause Unity.
In regards to what exactly?
I KNOW what 'you' are talking about. I have just moved on way past that, and want to keep moving forward.
Okay, then WHY NOT talk about thee nondual Self, instead of talking about some thing that is NOT thee nondual Self?
If you WANT to talk about some thing and claim that you KNOW it, then it would be better if you could substantiate your claims in some sort of fashion. You have, however, and to your credit, admitted that you have absolutely NO idea how to explain 'that', which is essentially very simple and easy to explain AND substantiate.
'you' are so BLIND that you can NOT even SEE a Truly OPEN clarifying question posed to 'you' without ASSUMING and BELIEVING that it is some thing else.
Read my question again. There is NO projecting, NO assuming AND NO believing whatsoever. There is just a Truly OPEN question. Just because 'you' BELIEVE otherwise will NOT make it so.
By the way, IF 'you' enjoy talking to and about "thee nondual self", then who and what is "thee nondual self".
Tell thee nondual self who and what it IS, and let 'us' SEE if 'you' get the feedback that you WANT and SEEK from "thee nondual self".
From what 'I' have observed 'you' will NOT like what "thee nondual self" informs 'you'.
