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Do you dispute my preconditions of philosophy? Clearly you do, and that is why this conversation can go nowhere, DAM. I'm not trying to be rude, but those conditions are basic premises.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:02 pm
Play with thoughts all you like, that's what it boils down to; there is thought, and there are things independent of observing thought.

Thought does not observe.

So What observes thought?

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:06 pm Do you dispute my preconditions of philosophy?

I know of no precondition.

Tell me what this precondition is?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:06 pm Do you dispute my preconditions of philosophy?

I know of no precondition.

Tell me what this precondition is?

I just did, above. Read what I say, instead of having me repeat it.

A precondition is a premise to be built on methodically. Do you not have any, if you can't except my basic ones? Then you have nothing to build on.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:07 pm

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:02 pm
Play with thoughts all you like, that's what it boils down to; there is thought, and there are things independent of observing thought.

Thought does not observe.

So What observes thought?

Awareness is thought. And only it observes.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:04 pm
Because I've seen thought disappear in the blink of of traffic accident.

So there must be an aware creator present to know witness the accident as having happened.

But then you had denied previously, that this something needing an aware creator..

Here again are my two basic philosophical premises:


A. There is thought (awareness). --Descartes.
B. There are things that persist beyond thought. -Paracelsus.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:14 pm

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:04 pm
Because I've seen thought disappear in the blink of of traffic accident.

So there must be an aware creator present to know witness the accident as having happened.

But then you had denied previously, that this something needing an aware creator..

No, you are just confused. Now stop blabbering and start reading. A basic understanding of my premises clarify my position.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:09 pm
A precondition is a premise to be built on methodically. Do you not have any, if you can't except my basic ones? Then you have nothing to build on.

Yes, it's called memory...memory on demand builds what appears to be seamless reality.

What is aware of memory?

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:17 pm

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:09 pm
A precondition is a premise to be built on methodically. Do you not have any, if you can't except my basic ones? Then you have nothing to build on.

Yes, it's called memory...memory on demand builds what appears to be seamless reality.

What is aware of memory?

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My awareness, oh repetitive one. Look, you are a solipsistic. And I'm not dealing with your issue.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 pm
Awareness is thought. And only it observes.

Awareness is not thought.

There is awareness of thought.

There can be awareness without thought...but there cannot be thought without awareness.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:19 pm

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 pm
Awareness is thought. And only it observes.

Awareness is not thought.

There is awareness of thought.

There can be awareness without thought...but there cannot be thought without awareness.

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Now that's just stupid.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:18 pm
My awareness, oh repetitive one.

Is this awareness that you claim to have the something you were talking about earlier that you said does not need an aware creator?

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:20 pm

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:18 pm
My awareness, oh repetitive one.

Is this awareness that you claim to have the something you were talking about earlier that you said does not need an aware creator?

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Just spit your point out precisely, if you have one. I'll tell you if I agree or not, should it make sense. Make it really precise and unambiguous. Ambiguity is your problem.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:23 pm

Now that's just stupid.

Just spit your point out precisely, if you have one. I'll tell you if I agree or not, should it make sense.

You seem to be losing ground have you lost your tongue?

Just keep answering the questions?

Is this awareness that you claim to have the something you were talking about earlier that you said does not need an aware creator?