Artworks Not Yet Conceived

[Hobbes' Choice]

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Gandalf

[Pluto]

Forgive me if i do not consider your bit of text as art

Your forgiven, what is it if it isn't art?

Art is in the making. You are making this is a start. I like the colour of your sculptures.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Forgive me if i do not consider your bit of text as art

Your forgiven, what is it if it isn't art?

Art is in the making. You are making this is a start. I like the colour of your sculptures.

By pretending to like the colour of non-colourful objects are you attempting to be funny, or is is some sort of insult?
Mybe I should drop a tin of read paint on them?

[Harbal]

Mybe I should drop a tin of read paint on them?

I think you mean "red" paint, don't you? I imagine your own face was quite red when you realised what a clanger you had dropped on the Manden thread.

[Pluto]

Forgive me if i do not consider your bit of text as art

Your forgiven, what is it if it isn't art?

Art is in the making. You are making this is a start. I like the colour of your sculptures.

By pretending to like the colour of non-colourful objects are you attempting to be funny, or is is some sort of insult?
Mybe I should drop a tin of read paint on them?

No, the brown earth colour I like. Brown is a colour. The sculptures themselves are a bit too literal for my taste. A bust of Gandalf. An upper body holding two masks. For me the best thing about them is the colour. Maybe it is a non colour, and that is interesting also, does something as non colour even exist.

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[Hobbes' Choice]

Here is just one example of how art has completely lost the plot.
Take a moment or two to examine the expression in the horses faces, the energy and primal forces that the painting seems to be unleashing. Look at the composition as a whole, emerging torrent of raw visceral power.
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This has not been achieved by examining photos, but through a lifetime of patient observation of horse and man. It is summoned up fully from the imagination of the artist.

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I submit there is more energy and skill in any square inch of this canvas than in any single work by a dozen of the best modern so-called artists.

I doubt there is a single artist today that could achieve what has been done on this single canvas.

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Elizabeth Southerden Thompson, Lady Butler (3 November 1846 – 2 October 1933)

[Pluto]

Capturing something in paint like what you have shown and described is fine and part of art's history. Yet like life art is constantly on the move, the modern artist would perhaps see the idea of what you have described as meaningless. Imagine an artist today trying to show the pain and anguish of a Syrian refugee father's face, holding his son. It would solve or help nothing, just be an exercise in look what I can do, look at my skill, see how I have manipulated paint to show pain and suffering. In art though, there is room for your idea and my idea of what art is, or can be, or should be. I see what you are saying about the image you've put up, but I think artist's are involved in the world in far more interesting and engaging ways today.

In fact I saw a poster recently of such a scene, made by a charity.

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[Pluto]

Wanting to portray a certain energy in the work, like what is going on in the image of horses, is something perhaps I wanted to achieve in a portrait I made about the death of a journalist. I didn't want to do a straight portrait as that wouldn't include the violence done to him. I wanted to include in the portrait his violent death. See what you think, have I used my talents and skill in making it. Yes why not, yet they are skills and talents of another order perhaps. I wrestled with the image until I got it to look the way I wanted it to, this is the same thing as the horse painting artist was doing.

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[Pluto]

Going back to the theme of this thread, there's an image that I find fascinating, and would like to make a picture of it, yet at the moment I can't see how I could bring something else to the image. The idea perhaps is simply to begin and see where it goes from there.

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[Harbal]

Wanting to portray a certain energy in the work, like what is going on in the image of horses, is something perhaps I wanted to achieve in a portrait I made about the death of a journalist. I didn't want to do a straight portrait as that wouldn't include the violence done to him. I wanted to include in the portrait his violent death. See what you think, have I used my talents and skill in making it. Yes why not, yet they are skills and talents of another order perhaps. I wrestled with the image until I got it to look the way I wanted it to, this is the same thing as the horse painting artist was doing.

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I don't know who Michael Hastings was but I'm sure he didn't look like that. If the picture is supposed to be of Michael Hastings shouldn't it at least look like him? Shouldn't the image be recognisable as Michael Hastings?

[Pluto]

You should have a look at a photo of him. I see a resemblance of him in my painting, the shape of the face, the hair-line, the cigarette. But like I said I wanted to make a picture of him that would incorporate the violence done to him. The fact alone that it is him I am trying to paint is enough. I am using his face as a launch-pad for the artwork. If the finished work looked nothing like him but in itself was a good painting that too would be okay. He is the main focus, the work is a tribute to him and his writing. He was a real journalist who saw mainstream journalists as stenographers. He wanted to write about what was really going on in the world.

I had drawn out the face in black paint first, it wasn't right so I showered off the paint and it created a sort of negative outline. A half-washed away image. Then standing over the painting with a loaded brush of grey paint, a big dollup of paint fell down onto the canvas, creating a splattered dot. An accident, yet I saw that it was what I was looking for, so I then made more of them purposefully around his face. Finally I had made what I had wanted to see. So I stopped, let it dry overnight, and in the morning when I saw it, I was taken aback at how good it was.

[Harbal]

You should have a look at a photo of him. I see a resemblance of him in my painting, the shape of the face, the hair-line, the cigarette. But like I said I wanted to make a picture of him that would incorporate the violence done to him.

I had drawn out the face in black paint first, it wasn't right so I showered off the paint and it created a sort of negative outline. A half-washed away image. Then standing over the painting with a loaded brush of grey paint, a big dollup of paint fell down onto the canvas, creating a splattered dot. An accident, yet I saw that it was what I was looking for, so I then made more of them purposefully around his face. Finally I had made what I had wanted to see. So I stopped, let it dry overnight, and in the morning when I saw it, I was taken aback at how good it was.

Looking at your picture doesn't make me think of Michael Hastings or journalists or death. I can tell it's supposed to be a human face smoking a cigarette but that is the only information I get from it. To say the technical execution of the image is unsophisticated and basic is probably giving it more credit than it deserves. I've looked at pictures of Michael Hastings and now that I know what he looks like I find that your rendition of him looks even less like him that it did before I new what he looked like.

[Pluto]

Okay fine, thanks for that. so you don't like it then?

[Pluto]

I've looked at pictures of Michael Hastings and now that I know what he looks like I find that your rendition of him looks even less like him that it did before I new what he looked like.

This is brilliant

[Harbal]

This is brilliant

It's greatly to your credit that you can say that after my summary of your work.