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Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:02 am
by Jaded Sage
Obvious Leo wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:Who talks about it the most, or who is the best at talking about it?
You are the best at talking about it. The answers to all questions relating to the self lie within.
Agreed, good sir! But I don't agree with the statement.
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:04 am
by Jaded Sage
Obvious Leo wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Not just Sartre.
Indeed. Not just Sartre. If we're honest with ourselves we all project a different chosen persona to suit the environment we happen to find ourselves in and we also adapt our forms of language accordingly. I don't see this as being in any way dishonest because I reckon that most of our notions of "Self" are delusional anyway. The Self is an ever-moving feast.
I argue that part of self-cultivation involves getting rid of all fabricated personas.
Is this the right thread? I'm going back and forth and getting confused. It's hard to check on a phone. =(
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:07 am
by Jaded Sage
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:Who talks about it the most, or who is the best at talking about it?
Its a tacit implication of all existentialism; not a specific doctrine.
It is interesting that the act of what you might call re-inventing yourself, becoming the author of your life, and allowing yourself to become absorbed into the role that you cut out for yourself in life can so easily be seen as being a
poseur, especially if the act you are playing is not terribly convincing.
The art of spotting a
poseur is part of the game, as the
poseur-spotter takes a high ground in that he can claim to observe, what others do not, that the
poseur has managed to fool some, but not him. In other words some people are copyists, and thus not "authentic"
Artist have to craft themselves to break into the "art world". There are many I feel are posing and pretend, even to themselves that they are sincere.
It might interest you to know that the word "hypcrite" in the Bible has also been translated as "actor" or, as I say, "poser" or "faker" or "fraud."
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:21 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Jaded Sage wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:Who talks about it the most, or who is the best at talking about it?
Its a tacit implication of all existentialism; not a specific doctrine.
It is interesting that the act of what you might call re-inventing yourself, becoming the author of your life, and allowing yourself to become absorbed into the role that you cut out for yourself in life can so easily be seen as being a
poseur, especially if the act you are playing is not terribly convincing.
The art of spotting a
poseur is part of the game, as the
poseur-spotter takes a high ground in that he can claim to observe, what others do not, that the
poseur has managed to fool some, but not him. In other words some people are copyists, and thus not "authentic"
Artist have to craft themselves to break into the "art world". There are many I feel are posing and pretend, even to themselves that they are sincere.
It might interest you to know that the word "hypcrite" in the Bible has also been translated as "actor" or, as I say, "poser" or "faker" or "fraud."
SO what?
It does not mean that now does it?
hypo- krises. Literally it means "under" "decide". Chew over that! Words take on metaphorical meanings, like: "under" "stand"?
And what of episteme?
A pontiff is a bridge to heaven.
Words change. New words are born, and some come together to form portmantos?
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:23 am
by Jaded Sage
Just thought you might think that was cool. Few people know it.
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:26 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Jaded Sage wrote:Just thought you might think that was cool. Few people know it.
It's obvious that it is a Greek word, like other 'hypo-' words, such as hypodermic, hypo-allergenic, hypothermia, hypothesis.
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:04 pm
by HexHammer
You need a minimum of intellect, to know what wisdom is, very stupid people wouldn't know the difference.
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:08 pm
by Dalek Prime
HexHammer wrote:You need a minimum of intellect, to know what wisdom is, very stupid people wouldn't know the difference.
So, you've not spotted one then?
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:17 pm
by HexHammer
Dalek Prime wrote:HexHammer wrote:You need a minimum of intellect, to know what wisdom is, very stupid people wouldn't know the difference.
So, you've not spotted one then?
I see one in the mirror each morning!
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:21 pm
by Dalek Prime
HexHammer wrote:Dalek Prime wrote:HexHammer wrote:You need a minimum of intellect, to know what wisdom is, very stupid people wouldn't know the difference.
So, you've not spotted one then?
I see one in the mirror each morning!
Try angling the mirror at yourself, and not the cat.
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:30 pm
by HexHammer
Dalek Prime wrote:Try angling the mirror at yourself, and not the cat.
Have you actually anything intelligent to say, have you actually said anything intelligent here?
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:19 pm
by Dalek Prime
HexHammer wrote:Dalek Prime wrote:Try angling the mirror at yourself, and not the cat.
Have you actually anything intelligent to say, have you actually said anything intelligent here?
Pot... Kettle.... Black.
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:30 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
HexHammer wrote:You need a minimum of intellect, to know what wisdom is, very stupid people wouldn't know the difference.
You mean PhilX?
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:54 pm
by HexHammer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:HexHammer wrote:You need a minimum of intellect, to know what wisdom is, very stupid people wouldn't know the difference.
You mean PhilX?
No, all of ya, save maybe 1-2 people, that has partial high reasoning skills and partial common sense. Else most excell in liniar logic like math.
Re: How Do You Spot a Wise Man in a Crowd?
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:49 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
HexHammer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:HexHammer wrote:You need a minimum of intellect, to know what wisdom is, very stupid people wouldn't know the difference.
You mean PhilX?
No, all of ya, save maybe 1-2 people, that has partial high reasoning skills and partial common sense. Else most excell in liniar logic like math.
Obviously spelling is not important. Don't you mean " excel in linear logic"?