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bobevenson wrote: A divinely inspired prophet, of course, is not open to other people's views since by definition his words are unchallengeable by mere mortal men. Do you think John on the isle of Patmos asked for a critique of the book of Revelation?

Well, that makes it all very convenient and locked up tight, doesn't it? Anyone can say anything. There is no way to challenge it. No proof is needed. A person can say it's of a higher order that mere mortals cannot understand. And the delusions shall run rampant. Yep! That's just what this world is. And we're supposed to be impressed with every new yahoo who has an idea that supposedly sets them above others? If only all of that energy and imagination could be channeled into something truly cooperative that serves/advances humankind... rather than creating more divisions and religions.

Lacewing wrote:

bobevenson wrote: A divinely inspired prophet, of course, is not open to other people's views since by definition his words are unchallengeable by mere mortal men. Do you think John on the isle of Patmos asked for a critique of the book of Revelation?

Well, that makes it all very convenient and locked up tight, doesn't it? Anyone can say anything. There is no way to challenge it. No proof is needed. A person can say it's of a higher order that mere mortals cannot understand. And the delusions shall run rampant. Yep! That's just what this world is. And we're supposed to be impressed with every new yahoo who has an idea that supposedly sets them above others? If only all of that energy and imagination could be channeled into something truly cooperative that serves/advances humankind... rather than creating more divisions and religions.

I believe you forgot my point about mystical certification, like my 20 minute discovery of something the world couldn't discover in 170 years.

bobevenson wrote:A divinely inspired prophet, of course, is not open to other people's views since by definition his words are unchallengeable by mere mortal men. Do you think John on the isle of Patmos asked for a critique of the book of Revelation?

False Prophet Bobby, get it right, False Prophet and Anti-Baptist for Satan and the Beast.

My ears ring with your silence upon these matters.

Arising_uk wrote:

bobevenson wrote:A divinely inspired prophet, of course, is not open to other people's views since by definition his words are unchallengeable by mere mortal men. Do you think John on the isle of Patmos asked for a critique of the book of Revelation?

False Prophet Bobby, get it right, False Prophet and Anti-Baptist for Satan and the Beast My ears ring with your silence upon these matters.

Well, as you know (actually, as you don't know), the game of Ouzo implies opposites. For instance, a bid of three 6's could mean you have a lot of 6's or none at all. In the same way, my name, Robert Merlin Evenson in English gematria simplex (A=1 to Z=26) adds up to the Unholy Trinity of Satan, False Prophet and Beast. On the other hand, in the book of Revelation, Christ's letters to the seven churches, Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea (the seven continents of the word), represent God's unified message to mankind. If you gematricize the seven churches, which represent the seven continents of the world from a spiritual standpoint, and subtract "the seven continents of the world" from a physical standpoint, you are left with the spiritual essence of "Robert Merlin Evenson." Now, I ask you, isn't that enough proof of my being a prophet, especially when coupled with the fact that I discovered something in 20 minutes that the rest of the world couldn't discover in 170 years that relates Cincinnati to ancient Rome in the book of Revelation?

bobevenson wrote:... In the same way, my name, Robert Merlin Evenson in English gematria simplex (A=1 to Z=26) adds up to the Unholy Trinity of Satan, False Prophet and Beast. On the other hand, in the book of Revelation, Christ's letters to the seven churches, Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea (the seven continents of the word), represent God's unified message to mankind. ...

And yet Christ didn't write them?

If you gematricize the seven churches, which represent the seven continents of the world from a spiritual standpoint, and subtract "the seven continents of the world" from a physical standpoint, ...

What do you mean by "subtract "the seven continents of the world" from a physical standpoint"?

you are left with the spiritual essence of "Robert Merlin Evenson."

What do you actually mean by this? Give me the example of this spiritual essence.

Now, I ask you, isn't that enough proof of my being a prophet, especially when coupled with the fact that I discovered something in 20 minutes that the rest of the world couldn't discover in 170 years that relates Cincinnati to ancient Rome in the book of Revelation?

Not really, it does prove to me that one can create amazing connections with numbers if one is driven enough.

"What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?"

Puttin' the cart before the horse, aren't you?

Show me god (the well spring of prophecy), then you can dazzle me with your proof that 'you' are god's mouthpiece.

That is: prove god before you tryin' to prove 'you' (as prophet).

Arising_uk wrote:

bobevenson wrote:... In the same way, my name, Robert Merlin Evenson in English gematria simplex (A=1 to Z=26) adds up to the Unholy Trinity of Satan, False Prophet and Beast. On the other hand, in the book of Revelation, Christ's letters to the seven churches, Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea (the seven continents of the word), represent God's unified message to mankind. ...

And yet Christ didn't write them? I guess you're just too fucking lazy to read the first verse of the book of Revelation, huh? Rev. 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"

If you gematricize the seven churches, which represent the seven continents of the world from a spiritual standpoint, and subtract "the seven continents of the world" from a physical standpoint, ...

What do you mean by "subtract "the seven continents of the world" from a physical standpoint"? First, you gematricize the names of the seven churches and add them up. That's the total of the continents of the world from a spiritual standpoint. Then you gematricize the phrase, "the seven continents of the world," and add the words up. That's the total of the continents of the world from a physical standpoint. When you subtract the two, what you have left, of course, is the spiritual essence of the word. And that total is the same as "Robert Merlin Evenson" when you gematricize my name.

bobevenson wrote: I guess you're just too fucking lazy to read the first verse of the book of Revelation, huh? Rev. 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"

So Christ didn't actually write anything then? This John guy got the message third hand so to speak.

First, you gematricize the names of the seven churches and add them up. That's the total of the continents of the world from a spiritual standpoint. Then you gematricize the phrase, "the seven continents of the world," and add the words up. That's the total of the continents of the world from a physical standpoint. When you subtract the two, what you have left, of course, is the spiritual essence of the word. And that total is the same as "Robert Merlin Evenson" when you gematricize my name.

Except of course that the term 'seven continents' is a fairly arbriatry and flexible definition. Still, tell you what, post your birth certificate here and I'll start to be interested in what you say.

Y'know, I'd take you a bit more seriously if you didn't display all the signs of the loon with your colours and formatting when you reply.

Arising_uk wrote:So Christ didn't actually write anything then? This John guy got the message third hand so to speak.

Chinese whispers can be very confusing. Jesus said "It's been particularly nasty weather" and John wrote down "I'll tickle your arse with a feather".

bobevenson wrote:You know, Leo, I hate to say this, but you really don't leave me any choice except to put you in the same category as Arising, which I realize is a supreme insult, but nonetheless, dead-on.

I seriously take it as a compliment that a complete fruit-cake like yourself thinks this.

bobevenson wrote:You know, Leo, I hate to say this, but you really don't leave me any choice except to put you in the same category as Arising, which I realize is a supreme insult, but nonetheless, dead-on.

Does this mean I won't get my tinfoil hat?

Obvious Leo wrote:

bobevenson wrote:You know, Leo, I hate to say this, but you really don't leave me any choice except to put you in the same category as Arising, which I realize is a supreme insult, but nonetheless, dead-on.

Does this mean I won't get my tinfoil hat?

I'm sure your friends will help you get that tinfoil hat, but I'm afraid you'll never qualify for a Société de Bonnet Rouge cap.

bobevenson wrote: I'm afraid you'll never qualify for a Société de Bonnet Rouge cap.

I'm a shattered man because I had just the handbag to go with it.

Obvious Leo wrote:

bobevenson wrote: I'm afraid you'll never qualify for a Société de Bonnet Rouge cap.

I'm a shattered man because I had just the handbag to go with it.

I'm sorry, but now I'm going to have to question your sexual orientation. Before, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you've pushed your luck too far, my friend!