What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
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TimeSeeker
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Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
The most important question is "How?"
How will I acquire knowledge?
How will I determine that what I have acquired is indeed knowledge and not a knock-off?
How will I update my knowledge?
How will I determine when my knowledge requires updating?
If you can't answer the 'How?" questions then anything goes. Grab a crystal ball or some Tarot cards...
How will I acquire knowledge?
How will I determine that what I have acquired is indeed knowledge and not a knock-off?
How will I update my knowledge?
How will I determine when my knowledge requires updating?
If you can't answer the 'How?" questions then anything goes. Grab a crystal ball or some Tarot cards...
Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
Who or what is this "I" you refer to?TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:23 pm The most important question is "How?"
How will I acquire knowledge?
How will I determine that what I have acquired is indeed knowledge and not a knock-off?
How will I update my knowledge?
How will I determine when my knowledge requires updating?
If you can't answer the 'How?" questions then anything goes. Grab a crystal ball or some Tarot cards...
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TimeSeeker
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Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
The most ancient question is "Who am I"? So if you tell me who you are asking these questions, then it will begin to make sense.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:29 pmHOW can I answer this question to your satisfaction?
42.
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Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
I am 42. 42 is asking these questions.Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:34 amThe most ancient question is "Who am I"? So if you tell me who you are asking these questions, then it will begin to make sense.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:29 pmHOW can I answer this question to your satisfaction?
42.
Ask an open question, you get a meaningless answer...
By Godel’s incompleteness theorems no answer I give you can ever be complete, so - why don’t you tell me what you are really asking?
Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
The answer is not meaningless.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:49 amI am 42. 42 is asking these questions.Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:34 amThe most ancient question is "Who am I"? So if you tell me who you are asking these questions, then it will begin to make sense.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:29 pm
HOW can I answer this question to your satisfaction?
42.
Ask an open question, you get a meaningless answer...
By Godel’s incompleteness theorems no answer I give you can ever be complete, so - why don’t you tell me what you are really asking?
42 is a label. A signifier.
Thus, you identify as a label, if you think you are what you identify with.
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Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
You have fallen victim to abducrive reasoning.Walker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:16 amThe answer is not meaningless.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:49 amI am 42. 42 is asking these questions.
Ask an open question, you get a meaningless answer...
By Godel’s incompleteness theorems no answer I give you can ever be complete, so - why don’t you tell me what you are really asking?
42 is a label. A signifier.
Thus, you identify as a label, if you think you are what you identify with.
There is a signifier (42). It points to a signified.
I identify as the signified, but to you (and for the sake of expediency/pragmatism) I communicate the signifier.
Because the question “Who am I” cannot be answered without omitting information about the signified. Any definition is necessarily incomplete.
So I am not even going to try.
I can’t compress my identity into a definition. That is why we have names. My name is 42.
Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
That's why it's the most important question, for who are you without a name?
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Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
Indeed!!TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:05 amI am nameless. Yet I still exist! Even if I can't define myself.
Ego death is freedom![]()
Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
A rock exists. Are you a rock?
If not, aspects differentiate you from a rock.
Are these aspects who you are?
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Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
No. I am not a rock.
From: https://repl.it/repls/DarksalmonOutlandishThings
Well. I am a Type (from Type theory) Human. A rock is a Type Rock. These are just abstractions we made up to deal with the complexity of the universe around us. First and foremost they are value judgments. An arbitrary choice in how to categorize the world around us.In [1]: print("A rock exists.")
...: class Rock(object):
...: pass
...:
...: RockyBilboa = Rock()
...:
...: print("I exist.")
...: class Human(object):
...: pass
...:
...: TimeSeeker = Human()
...:
...: print("Am I a rock? {}".format(RockyBilboa == TimeSeeker))
...: print("If not, aspects differentiate you from a rock.")
...:
...: from deepdiff import DeepDiff
...: print(DeepDiff(RockyBilboa, TimeSeeker))
...:
A rock exists.
I exist.
Am I a rock? False
If not, what aspects differentiate you from a rock.
{'type_changes': {'root': {'new_type': <class '__main__.Human'>, 'old_type': <class '__main__.Rock'>, 'old_value': <__main__.Rock object at 0x1098c9a90>, 'new_value': <__main__.Human object at 0x1098c9ad0>}}}
I am guessing that's not the answer you were looking for?
The human body has about 7*1027 atoms. A rock has far fewer atoms.
Is that the distinction you are looking for? The composition/make/arrangement of the quarks/atoms/molecules is different.
These arrangements are so particular that we have abstracted them into words like "cells". I am made of cells. A rock isn't But we are both made of the same matter. So in a way we are the same. We both have names. TimeSeeker and RockyBilboa! But we are also different.
I have brown eyes. A rock doesn't.
I have hands. A rock doesn't.
I like cheesecake. I am almost certain the rock doesn't.
I don't understand the English question. Can you translate it into Python? Well aware that logic (logos) is language and all logic (language) is incomplete. Are you in pursuit of completeness perhaps?
Are you asking about the XOR operator perhaps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_or
XORing me against a rock will produce A LOT!!!! Of information. Where would you like me to upload it?
Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
You say you cannot define yourself.
You say you are not a rock, which is a definition.
If you had no eyes, or hands, and did not like cheesecake, would you be a rock?
You say you are not a rock, which is a definition.
If you had no eyes, or hands, and did not like cheesecake, would you be a rock?
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Re: What’s The Most Important Question, and Why?
Do you think the essence of a rock is the most important question?
Is 42 your essence?
Is the stuff that you're made of, your essence?
Is 42 your essence?
Is the stuff that you're made of, your essence?