Mirror on the Moon

[thedoc]

turn sound down first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxH0EUbmV_o

I really am beginning to think that you are simple ,minded.

That is a definite possibility, but if that film is the best they have, they have nothing. Everything the deniers complain about in the film is easily explained by low gravity and lack of atmosphere. If you watch the film and listen to the comments by the astronauts, the "piece of space suit" was actually a bag of samples that they had been collecting. It's no wonder that Pluto posts to turn the sound down first, so that you don't hear that, then the deniers can post any lie they want on the film.

[Pluto]

The video link of two astronauts wrestling or whatever they are doing is like an art performance. I put it up not as proof of fake but as a strange thing in itself.

[Pluto]

turn sound down first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxH0EUbmV_o

I really am beginning to think that you are simple ,minded.

Well, as long as you're thinking.

[Pluto]

It's no wonder that Pluto posts to turn the sound down first, so that you don't hear that, then the deniers can post any lie they want on the film.

This sentence is a creation in the mind of the doc. It is creative, but not why I wrote "turn down sound." You can see how assumptions are made if they fit a narrative. (I wrote turn down the sound so to better focus on the moving image and text)

There is another video of an astronaut with a hammer and feather, they drop at the same speed, it is wonderful theatre. I love the sounds/beeps which come through the radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

If these guys aren't on the moon, they are on drugs or tempo insane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo3-fuYKWB4

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

turn sound down first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxH0EUbmV_o

That doesnt prove anything, although it does look like strings attached, it could just be his fingers propping him up.

There is another video of an astronaut with a hammer and feather, they drop at the same speed, it is wonderful theatre. I love the sounds/beeps which come through the radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

Although it seems like they are on the moon in that video, it could just be a camera with a high refresh rate slowed down at the right time, and a weighted (trick) feather.

[thedoc]

Although it seems like they are on the moon in that video, it could just be a camera with a high refresh rate slowed down at the right time, and a weighted (trick) feather.

Of course it's a trick feather, doesn't everyone have several of those laying around the house. I'll just go and get mine along with the "trick" hammer, made out of styrofoam so it will fall very slowly. Should make for an interesting video, and I'll just blur out the background and claim I'm on the Moon without a space suit, mine's at the cleaners.

[thedoc]

This sentence is a creation in the mind of the doc. It is creative, but not why I wrote "turn down sound." You can see how assumptions are made if they fit a narrative. (I wrote turn down the sound so to better focus on the moving image and text)

Nice CYA, or is that backpedaling?

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Although it seems like they are on the moon in that video, it could just be a camera with a high refresh rate slowed down at the right time, and a weighted (trick) feather.

Of course it's a trick feather, doesn't everyone have several of those laying around the house. I'll just go and get mine along with the "trick" hammer, made out of styrofoam so it will fall very slowly. Should make for an interesting video, and I'll just blur out the background and claim I'm on the Moon without a space suit, mine's at the cleaners.

It's NASA, they could just make a metal feather and make it look like a real feather.

The hammer analogy wouldn't work because air resistance would cause it to tumble. This would imply hammer throw is harder to fake. However, I watched the hammer throw video, there was nothing to be seen. It was shot so long range you couldn't see the hammer being thrown, you were just supposed to "assume" it was thrown based on the chatter and dialog.

[thedoc]

It's NASA, they could just make a metal feather and make it look like a real feather.

The hammer analogy wouldn't work because air resistance would cause it to tumble. This would imply hammer throw is harder to fake. However, I watched the hammer throw video, there was nothing to be seen. It was shot so long range you couldn't see the hammer being thrown, you were just supposed to "assume" it was thrown based on the chatter and dialog.

I see the reading comprehension problems is accompanied by video comprehension problems. The astronaut did not "throw" the hammer, he "dropped" it. Quite a different dynamic, but I don't expect that you would understand any of that.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

It's NASA, they could just make a metal feather and make it look like a real feather.

The hammer analogy wouldn't work because air resistance would cause it to tumble. This would imply hammer throw is harder to fake. However, I watched the hammer throw video, there was nothing to be seen. It was shot so long range you couldn't see the hammer being thrown, you were just supposed to "assume" it was thrown based on the chatter and dialog.

I see the reading comprehension problems is accompanied by video comprehension problems. The astronaut did not "throw" the hammer, he "dropped" it. Quite a different dynamic, but I don't expect that you would understand any of that.

No the only reading comprehension problem is you. I was referring to another video called the "hammer throw" which I stated obviously, even to a 4th grade level they would get it.

Let me clarify, there are 2 videos I mentioned. The hammer "drop" (with the feather) and hammer "throw."

[thedoc]

No the only reading comprehension problem is you. I was referring to another video called the "hammer throw" which I stated obviously, even to a 4th grade level they would get it.

Let me clarify, there are 2 videos I mentioned. The hammer "drop" (with the feather) and hammer "throw."

That's not even a good CYA or good backpedaling, there were no 2 videos mentioned, everything was in reference to the hammer feather drop. If you can find a "hammer throw' on the Moon, please post the link, it might be fun to watch.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

No the only reading comprehension problem is you. I was referring to another video called the "hammer throw" which I stated obviously, even to a 4th grade level they would get it.

Let me clarify, there are 2 videos I mentioned. The hammer "drop" (with the feather) and hammer "throw."

That's not even a good CYA or good backpedaling, there were no 2 videos mentioned, everything was in reference to the hammer feather drop. If you can find a "hammer throw' on the Moon, please post the link, it might be fun to watch.

There already is a hammer throw video in the Moon series videos, and as I described it is not fun to watch, as the hammer is too small to register on camera. You are expected to assume it was thrown, based on the dialog.

[thedoc]

The hammer analogy wouldn't work because air resistance would cause it to tumble.

No, if a hammer tumbles when thrown it's because of the dynamics imparted to it in the throw. Air resistance might cause the head of the hammer, being denser, to rotate to the front, but it would not cause the hammer to tumble during flight. It would be something like an arrow that has a denser, heavier tip and fletching at the back.

[Hobbes' Choice]

The hammer analogy wouldn't work because air resistance would cause it to tumble.

No, if a hammer tumbles when thrown it's because of the dynamics imparted to it in the throw. Air resistance might cause the head of the hammer, being denser, to rotate to the front, but it would not cause the hammer to tumble during flight. It would be something like an arrow that has a denser, heavier tip and fletching at the back.

A hammer falling, if also in a rotation, will spin about it's own centre of gravity (the balance point through the length of head and shaft), air resistance will have little effect, and neither will gravity which will only effect the RATE at which it is attracted to the ground.

An arrow is designed to resist, in a straight line in the air, being light and having fletching. The area of the fletching is enough as, compared to the mass of the whole arrow, it is large.
Because a hammer is dense the air resistance due to the shape is minimal. But even an arrow dropped from a couple of feet on earth will not experience significant air resistance, in a simple fall.

In the case of a hammer being dropped on the moon, the hammer could be released in a way to achieve many rotations, far more than it could on earth, as the fall would take so much longer to reach the ground. OR, it just the same way it could be dropped so that no rotation happens.

If the hammer were released head up, head down or horizontally it would hit the ground in the same way. Rotation will only occur, if and when, a force is imparted on release. This will most commonly be the case.

[Hobbes' Choice]

No the only reading comprehension problem is you. I was referring to another video called the "hammer throw" which I stated obviously, even to a 4th grade level they would get it.

Let me clarify, there are 2 videos I mentioned. The hammer "drop" (with the feather) and hammer "throw."

That's not even a good CYA or good backpedaling, there were no 2 videos mentioned, everything was in reference to the hammer feather drop. If you can find a "hammer throw' on the Moon, please post the link, it might be fun to watch.

There already is a hammer throw video in the Moon series videos, and as I described it is not fun to watch, as the hammer is too small to register on camera. You are expected to assume it was thrown, based on the dialog.

Not only do you have a deep ignorance of the basic techniques used in the Apollo Missions, but it is clear that your knowledge of physics is woefully negligent.

If you drop a tennis ball weighing 20grs, massive ball of lead weighting 20 tonnes from the same height at the same time: which will hit the ground first, and why?

What would happen on the Moon ,that was different?