Arising_uk wrote:SpheresOfBalance wrote:Contrary your your flawed 'belief,' ARISING UK, everyones meaning is not necessarily contained within your responses. Or should I say UNDERSTANDING? As if it's paramount, flawless, necessarily definitive! You're just one in 8 billion, that's all! Just like the rest of us! Suck it up!
I'm fine with being one of many, no eyed-deer why you think otherwise?
Once more, one may have a meaning they wish to impart and if they wish to impart it then they will, in the main, be using language to do so and as such despite that one thinks they are using the words that represent the meaning they wish to impart the nature of language means this is not necessarily so therefore if one wished to impart a meaning one should pay attention to the response ones words get as this will tell you if your meaning has got across. You appear to think that it is the others fault that they don't understand what you mean but then you think language has a fixed meaning that can be found in dictionaries but with respect to language meaning does not lie in dictionaries just definitions. Hence the catch-phrase, 'The meaning of one's words lies in the response they get', if one truly wishes to communicate something.
Arising, you know that I've respected you in a lot of ways, I may not say it very often, but on many occasions I've supported you fully. The reason I've picked at that particular baby, (phrase), of yours, is because in and of itself it comes off both arrogant, and obviously false. In FACT, ones response does not necessarily have anything to do with another's MEANING!! If you had formulated that particular phrases 'meaning,' using the word, 'words' instead of the word, 'meaning,' then you would have been much closer to being correct. But even still, your phrase would, in and of itself, convey your assumption that your understanding of the meaning of words is necessarily superior to others, and this a direct contradiction to your other belief that dictionaries do not contain meaning, that meaning is born of peoples minds, such that it leaves no room for anyone to formulate any sentence that another may understand. Whether you care to acknowledge it or not, in FACT, a dictionary that 'everyone' refers to, is the "ONLY" way one can insure that their words are capable of conveying the meaning that is inside their heads. So it is the job of anyone that wishes to convey the proper meaning that is contained in their minds, to adjust the words they use to meet those in a dictionary or else they fail to formulate sentences that another can find common reference so as to fully understand. WE CANNOT CRAWL UNTO EACH OTHERS MINDS TO FIND TRUE MEANING. Unfortunately we must rely on REFERENCE books as a source of COMMON meaning so as to understand one another. IT CAN BE NO OTHER WAY! If you don't understand my point then you had better rethink your belief system. Because on this topic, my logic is flawless! No, I'm an idiot!! I'M NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE!! WE ARE ALL BORN OF EQUAL POTENTIAL. Unless we are born physically flawed, or are subsequently mentally corrupted!
So, what I'm saying to you is to "give people the benefit of doubt" because that can ONLY serve both you and them, when it comes to the sharing of meaning contained in each of our minds. NO ONE EITHER DESERVES OR SHOULD INSIST ON CARTE BLANCHE IN TERMS OF MEANING CONVEYANCE, BEING SHARED AMONGST EVER DIFFERING PEOPLES, SUCH THAT THEY STOMP ON ANOTHER'S WORD USAGE AS IF THEY ARE SUPERIOR. As it's just an illusion or their delusion, the former born of ignorance, the latter, a self stroking mechanism. Take your pick!
And I do thank you for being very even keeled in your last response to me. In my 'opinion' it showed much maturity! Whether you value it or not is immaterial, as I would feel the same way, either way! So unload if you wish, or maintain such grand decorum, it's your choice of course.
And despite your belief in them, or the date being in dispute, I wish you and yours happy holidays! May it find you and yours, healthy, happy and wise!
