iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:55 pm....again, what specifically do you think should be done about it? What should the policies of the American government be to stem this demographic crisis? How far would you go? Not as far as Hitler perhaps but more in that direction?
I'm just trying to pin down how existentially you became a racist [re dasein] and how far you would go to create a community, a nation where the intellectually superior "Northern European" white race prevailed?
I notice an increasingly fraught tone in what you write. I also notice that you repeat, like a litany, a set of assertions that derive from Progressive ideology. You will have to understand that I reject Progressivism and Egalitarianism to the degree that they become tools of a Marxian subversion. Yet my general philosophy is 'personalist' and this has to do with respecting
persons.
All persons.
You have asked many leading questions because you want to embroil me in moral issues within which you are certain you have leverage. I simply side-step this. You can (i.e. you are free to) phrase and paraphrase what you believe I am saying into whatever form you seem to wish me to say and then argue with full vehemence against that -- if that serves your purposes.
I talk in general terms about what different people think about race, about multiculturalism, about the American project, and really a very wide gamut of different types of concerns within areas of tremendous contention. I am aware of the full scope of these issues and questions and I have read, and do read, very widely. But what I am not doing is recommending a political praxis. I approach these topics *as a philosopher* -- and by that I only mean as one open to discussing things, thinking about things, free from coercion. I start from the premise that we live in and are subject to ideological coercion. To understand what I mean you will only need to step back from your own argument style and terms and see how you, yourself, are deeply involved in this. I wish to be on the outside of it, not embroiled and enmeshed in it. And I also want to be able to recover, since I regard it as being under assault, the capability of thinking and reasoning freely, without being subject to ideological coercion.
So the statement that I make, and really it is the only solid plank or platform that I have, is that I reject completely the machinations of anti-whiteness. I see the trend or the ideology or the psychological pathology of anti-whiteness as being a specific and a real thing. And to turn against that, and to define an alternative to it, but one that is sane, healthy, self-affirming but not harmful or destructive to other people's identity -- that is what I am after.
So what I suggest that you do is to review what I have written so far and see, if you can, that I have not made any 'immoral' statements and nothing like what you seem to wish for me to say. You are both baiting me and leading me. I am aware of this and as I say I simply side-step it.
You seem to be very concerned about superiority and inferiority. I have
transcended preoccupations of that sort. I do not think in those terms. But I do think in terms of shared values, shared history, shared *trajectory*, shared concepts of destiny and attainment. And I am certainly open to and capable of talking about any of these things.
Turning back to your (baiting and leading) question:
"....again, what specifically do you think should be done about it? What should the policies of the American government be to stem this demographic crisis? How far would you go? Not as far as Hitler perhaps but more in that direction?"
I have already made my position clear. You simply need to read it and assimilate it. I regard the *right* of a Japanese, or a Nigerian, or a Frenchman, to define themselves at a
somatic level in the same way that they may define all other categories of concern. If they see *themselves* as a specific thing (or outcome as in heritage) they are completely within their rights to define and also control their demographics. It is easier for us to see this *right* when we apply it to a generally homogenous (and island) nation like Japan. One that is distinct. Also, Japanese culture is so distinctive that it also makes it earier to see and identify it.
In a nation like America, and especially the America that has been engineered in the last 50-60 years, the European-descended super-majority has been altered or is being altered. I am simply aware of this fact. And I am also aware of what I understand to be an attack on 'White identity'. What is the origin of this attack? That is a complex question but it can be answered or an attempt begun to answer it. Is that something you want to explore? I have already made allusions: I regard Progressivism and Egalitarianism as Marxist tools. These are ideas that function with ideological, social and cultural wars. We are
in a cultural war.
Loosely we can refer to this as the Culture Wars.
Now I have said two essential things. 1) I have said that I do not think it a good idea if those of European descent lose super-majority status. And 2) that I adamantly oppose all ideology that expresses anti-Whiteness.
What you want me to do is to define some Hitleresque social cleansing program -- I mean look at what you have written!
I start only from the platform that I have defined here.
Now what I would appreciate if you were to do is to explain to me what is wrong -- morally wrong if you wish -- in what I have said. Teach me. Show me. Make it plain.
Perhaps our free-spirited and confidently feisty natures intrigue you. We're not sheep. We're not entrenched. We're self-sufficient, reasonably intelligent, and we're having fun. You try to distort this to fit into some bullshit model in your own head... and again, this is all to serve your ego.
- you sayin' I'm not a person too? Speciesist!
- Hey, screw you! I'm a person too!