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mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:39 am

It’s not always easy to tell where your use of irony begins and ends.

No, it's not.

Try harder: be better.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:13 am Send her keister home to Slovenia. She came, followed the established process, then mucked it up by working and earning her keep just before her work visa was approved.

Taking this as irony, you are saying that the third Mrs Trump is good immigration, even though she clearly broke immigration law. For you the will to be American is all, and you misrepresented your position here:

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:41 pm Good immigration is folks of any color comin' here legally with the intent to be American.

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:14 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:13 am Send her keister home to Slovenia. She came, followed the established process, then mucked it up by working and earning her keep just before her work visa was approved.

Taking this as irony, you are saying that the third Mrs Trump is good immigration, even though she clearly broke immigration law. For you the will to be American is all, and you misrepresented your position here:

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:41 pm Good immigration is folks of any color comin' here legally with the intent to be American.

What could be more 'Murican than not letting a pesky regulation get in your way?

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:14 pm

Taking this as irony

Not necessarily the wise thing to do.

Try harder: be better.

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pesky regulation

Which one?

Mick: Taking this at face value …
Henry: Try harder
Mick: Taking this as irony …
Henry: Try harder

I think you’ve ruled out all reasonable interpretations of your position, Henry. All we’re left with is “Henry is full of shit” .

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:35 pm

You're confused.

Understandable.

Let me untangle it for you.

When someone posts sumthin' like...

Good immigration is folks of any color comin' here legally with the intent to be American.

Bad immigration is folks of any color comin' here illegally with no intention to be American.

A sensible way you could open a conversation might be...

Could you explain that, Henry?

...or...

What does it mean to immigrate legally, Henry?

...or...

What does libertarian immigration look like, Henry?
as a natural rights libertarian, I might have an opinion to share

Goin' with...

This is bullshit. And given it’s Henry, I’m going to say it’s disingenuous bullshit.

...is a bad idea.

Then, playin' the obvious, garden-variety gotcha! with Melanija Knavs without seeking details, well, you see what you got from me after that.

Anyway, always a displeasure touchin' base, Mick. Let's do it again in a coupla years.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:38 pm Goin' with...

This is bullshit. And given it’s Henry, I’m going to say it’s disingenuous bullshit.

...is a bad idea.

Ah, Henry! Did I hurt your feefees? Sorry, not sorry.

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:04 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:38 pm Goin' with...

This is bullshit. And given it’s Henry, I’m going to say it’s disingenuous bullshit.

...is a bad idea.

Ah, Henry! Did I hurt your feefees? Sorry, not sorry.

Well, look at that. The WOKE never stop carrying on about 'people's feelings'. They're always pretending to be so concerned that their rainbow freak show crowd might get hurt, that nowadays they are attempting to erode comedy and if they get their way, evolution will eventually remove humans from having emotions.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:27 pm

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:04 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:38 pm Goin' with...

This is bullshit. And given it’s Henry, I’m going to say it’s disingenuous bullshit.

...is a bad idea.

Ah, Henry! Did I hurt your feefees? Sorry, not sorry.

Well, look at that. The WOKE never stop carrying on about 'people's feelings'. They're always pretending to be so concerned that their rainbow freak show crowd might get hurt, that nowadays they are attempting to erode comedy and if they get their way, evolution will eventually remove humans from having emotions.

He's a smarmy, odious creep--like all wokies. Never worked out what motivates them.

One of the most beautiful moments in history. Patronising wokie gets what he asked for

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9jCpUMUezzY

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:31 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:27 pm

mickthinks wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:04 pm

Ah, Henry! Did I hurt your feefees? Sorry, not sorry.

Well, look at that. The WOKE never stop carrying on about 'people's feelings'. They're always pretending to be so concerned that their rainbow freak show crowd might get hurt, that nowadays they are attempting to erode comedy and if they get their way, evolution will eventually remove humans from having emotions.

He's a smarmy, odious creep--like all wokies. Never worked out what motivates them.

I think that motivation is what you refer to as virtue signalling. Henry mentions need to control\stop illegal immigration and straightaway mickstinks brings up people's skin colour (oooh, so no we all can be clear that micstinks isn't a racist - in his idiot head)

I watched my football team on the weekend and at the v start b4 kick off - the commentator made the statement (as they now do every game) "There is no room for racism" - well fuck me, I never hear of this "racism" and barely ANYONE these days cares about peoples skin colour/race -- but they keep banging on and on that there is some major RACE problem that we ALWAYS NEED TO BE REMINDED ABOUT PEOPLES SKIN COLOUR FFS!!!!

They're too dumb to realise that THEY are creating the division based on race...nobody else barely thinks about it these days, but they perpetuate the bullshite.

Then, to top it off - as the players ran onto the pitch of what is supposed to be just an enjoyable game of football - RAINBOW flags are waved at them and the captains of both teams HAVE to wear RAINBOW armbands instead of the standard captain bands.

SERIOUSLY - rainbows used to be painted lovingly by little children - now instead of such innocence, we are supposed to constantly be reminded that it's all ok for men to have sex with men, and the rainbow is all about such queer behaviour and more.

I mean I vote for the gays\lesbians to be permitted to marry each other...in a large way because I knew it was never going away, and I truly don't care what they want to do - but NO - it's constantly got to be rammed down our throats. I've seen gay dudes annoyed about this WOKE rainbow tran crap!! ..because now they are copping more discrimination as a backlash to people getting more and more resentful of the LGB*&QY#%(*&QYFOIUYEG+.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:48 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:31 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:27 pm

Well, look at that. The WOKE never stop carrying on about 'people's feelings'. They're always pretending to be so concerned that their rainbow freak show crowd might get hurt, that nowadays they are attempting to erode comedy and if they get their way, evolution will eventually remove humans from having emotions.

He's a smarmy, odious creep--like all wokies. Never worked out what motivates them.

I think that motivation is what you refer to as virtue signalling. Henry mentions need to control\stop illegal immigration and straightaway mickstinks brings up people's skin colour (oooh, so no we all can be clear that micstinks isn't a racist - in his idiot head)

I watched my football team on the weekend and at the v start b4 kick off - the commentator made the statement (as they now do every game) "There is no room for racism" - well fuck me, I never hear of this "racism" and barely ANYONE these days cares about peoples skin colour/race -- but they keep banging on and on that there is some major RACE problem that we ALWAYS NEED TO BE REMINDED ABOUT PEOPLES SKIN COLOUR FFS!!!!

They're too dumb to realise that THEY are creating the division based on race...nobody else barely thinks about it these days, but they perpetuate the bullshite.

Then, to top it off - as the players ran onto the pitch of what is supposed to be just an enjoyable game of football - RAINBOW flags are waved at them and the captains of both teams HAVE to wear RAINBOW armbands instead of the standard captain bands.

SERIOUSLY - rainbows used to be painted lovingly by little children - now instead of such innocence, we are supposed to constantly be reminded that it's all ok for men to have sex with men, and the rainbow is all about such queer behaviour and more.

I mean I vote for the gays\lesbians to be permitted to marry each other...in a large way because I knew it was never going away, and I truly don't care what they want to do - but NO - it's constantly got to be rammed down our throats. I've seen gay dudes annoyed about this WOKE rainbow tran crap!! ..because now they are copping more discrimination as a backlash to people getting more and more resentful of the ideology.

Virtue-signalling is a symptom (or 'tool' if you like) but not the underlying motivation. I do know that with some it's an open desire to bring down Western democracies. I wouldn't have believed it myself (it sounds too much like a conspiracty theory) if I hadn't heard them actually say it. That certainly explains their obsession with backing the most vile, bat-shit insane 'causes' and their complete inability to produce a rational argument for any of them.

Just saw this quote on X.

“Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as racists.”

— Thomas Sowell