WE NEED MORE GUNS..

[Age]

But owning MORE guns does NOT lead to Peace NOR Harmony. As can be CLEARLY SEEN in the days when this is being written, as was PROVED True, in those days when guns and weapons were around.

Yeah. It does.

To the left of this graph were the days when we had less guns around.

trends.png

I ASKED 'you' BEFORE "skepdick" IF 'you' REALLY WANT TO USE 'statics' here?

I AM STILL WAITING, PATIENTLY, for 'you TO ANSWER 'this QUESTION'.

[Skepdick]

Anybody can draw a graph that shows whatever they want it to show.

Anybody can dismiss facts on grounds of distrusting the source.

Skepticism doesn't work in practice.

[Age]

But owning MORE guns does NOT lead to Peace NOR Harmony. As can be CLEARLY SEEN in the days when this is being written, as was PROVED True, in those days when guns and weapons were around.

Yeah. It does.

To the left of this graph were the days when we had less guns around.

trends.png

Anybody can draw a graph that shows whatever they want it to show.

EXACTLY.

And, I WONDER what an ACCURATE 'graph' in relation to that so-called "united states of america" place would SHOW over the SAME time period.

[Age]

Anybody can draw a graph that shows whatever they want it to show.

Anybody can dismiss facts on grounds of distrusting the source.

One would HAVE TO SHOW ACTUAL 'Facts' BEFORE 'they' could even be DISMISSED.

Skepticism doesn't work in practice.

But 'skepticsm" WOULD so-call 'work in practice' for those who call "themselves" "skeptics", or "skepdicks", right?

[Harbal]

Skepticism doesn't work in practice.

What's that supposed to mean? You come out with the most stupid comments.

[Skepdick]

Skepticism doesn't work in practice.

What's that supposed to mean? You come out with the most stupid comments.

You've defaulted to skepticism on my being a policeman. You've arrived at the wrong conclusion.

The point of reasoning is to arrive at the correct conclusion, so your way of reasoning doesn't work in practice.

[Harbal]

Skepticism doesn't work in practice.

What's that supposed to mean? You come out with the most stupid comments.

You've defaulted to skepticism on my being a policeman. You've arrived at the wrong conclusion.

You have been exposed as a shameful liar, live with it!

[Skepdick]

What's that supposed to mean? You come out with the most stupid comments.

You've defaulted to skepticism on my being a policeman. You've arrived at the wrong conclusion.

You have been exposed as a shameful liar, live with it!

Q.E.D Perception is reality. To Harbal anyway.

[Wizard22]

Skepdick, can you tell more about the need for guns in South Africa particularly?

I don't know much about the history there, aside from I've heard it's a very volatile, lawless, and violent country.

You definitely have my sympathy in living in such a criminal environment. Western Liberal Elitists cannot empathize with your situation, ignore them.

[Harbal]

Q.E.D Perception is reality. To Harbal anyway.

I am not the one who perceives himself to be a policeman.

[Skepdick]

I am not the one who perceives himself to be a policeman.

Nobody said you were perceiving yourself to be a policeman.

If Harbal is anything to go by I am really not looking forward to 68...

[commonsense]

1 …what 'we', REALLY, NEED MORE OF is a continual DECREASE of guns in society, that is; IF 'we' REALLY do WANT to live in Peace and Harmony together, right?

2 WHY, they are ALL REALLY UNNECESSARY?

3 But I did I EVER SAY here that guns ARE UNNECESSARY?

4 Also, WHY do you SAY and CLAIM hear that guns are UNNECESSARY, UNLESS LOTS of people already have guns?

5 WHEN, EXACTLY, is there some so-called 'tipping point' when guns are NOT NECESSARY to when guns are, supposedly, NECESSARY?

6 WHY?

7 But WHO is suggesting or making the CLAIM that just because LOTS of people have guns, then among them' there ARE so-called 'aberrant gun owners'?

8 Who is NOT to SAY that ONLY the following ones to obtain guns WILL BE the ACTUAL 'aberrant gun owners'?

9 Or, conversely, could it NOT be a fact that if just one or two people owned guns, which would be very FEW people in say the so-called "united states of america", in the days when this is being written, who one of or BOTH were actually 'aberrant gun owners', now would it be WISE for absolutely EVERYn one to gno out and obtain guns, just because of one or two here? .

10 Would it NOT be smarter and WISER to just RID these people of those guns, COMPLETELY?

11 Also, WHY ONLY STOP at guns?

12 For example, if there ARE 'aberrant gun owners', in society, WHY NOT 'the rest' get rocket launchers, or weapons of mass destruction, or nuclear warheads, in order to 'protect' "themselves" from 'those aberrant gun owners'?

13 WHY NOT 'the rest' get rocket launchers, or weapons of mass destruction, or nuclear warheads, in order to 'protect' "themselves" from 'those aberrant gun owners'?

14 For SURELY 'you' would WANT TO DO ALL 'you' COULD to 'protect' 'you', and a VERY SELECT 'few' around 'you' right?

15 Would 'you' REALLY be doing the 'Right thing' if 'you' STOPPED at just guns ONLY to 'protect' 'you', and a FEW "others" only, from 'those' types of 'aberrant gun owners'?

16 WHERE is 'your' "american spirit" here. [sic]

17 Load "yourself" UP WITH MORE and BIGGER WEAPONRY than what THE "other" has, is the 'right way' of thinking and doing, correct? .

18 WHY do you think or BELIEVE that absolutely EVERY one HAVING a gun would be MORE 'sensible'?

19 WHY do you think or BELIEVE that absolutely EVERY one HAVING a gun would be MORE 'sensible'?

20 So, WHY has "skepdick's" views on so-called 'pro-gun' been, supposedly, right all along, EXACTLY?

21 Which is more or less what just about ALL of 'you', posters, DO here?

22 …can one lie so much that 'they' end up BELIEVING 'their' OWN lies?

23 Or, can one BELIEVE some 'thing' so much that 'they' may end up lying, even unintentionally?

24 If 'you' WANT to CONTINUE to CLAIM that 'you' CAN 'deceive' "your" 'self' here "skepdick", then EXPLAIN HOW MANY times 'you' have done 'this' ALREADY, WHY 'you' DO 'this', and HOW 'you' DO 'this', EXACTLY?

25 But, if 'you' REALLY BELIEVE that 'you' CAN 'deceive' "your" 'self' here "skepdick", then this might EXPLAIN BETTER HOW and WHY 'you' BELIEVE that 'you' ARE A so-called 'police man' here?

1 Right, or we need more guns.

But owning MORE guns does NOT lead to Peace NOR Harmony. As can be CLEARLY SEEN in the days when this is being written, as was PROVED True, in those days when guns and weapons were around.

2 Yes, but they exist nonetheless.

Human created 'pollution', for example, is ALSO NOT necessary, but because 'it' exists, nonetheless, then is 'this' ANY reason to CONTINUE creating pollution and to CONTINUE to keep creating MORE and MORE pollution?

3 See question 2.

So, did I, or did I NOT, EVER SAY guns ARE NECESSARY?

4 Asked and answered.

'you' NEVER ANSWERED 'that QUESTION' ANYWHERE here. And, if you WANT to CLAIM that you DID, then a CONSIDERATE 'link' TO 'it', or a 'copy and paste' OF 'it', would be MUCH APPRECIATED.

5 Long ago is when.

So, in other words, 'you' have NO REAL IDEA, and 'you' ARE just PRESUMING that 'it' DID HAPPEN, SOME TIME.

6 Asked and answered.

'you' NEVER ANSWERED, 'WHY guns became, supposedly, NECESSARY?'

7 I made that suggestion.

HOW do 'you' DISTINGUISH, EXACTLY, the DIFFERENCE between so-called 'aberrant gun owners' from 'non aberrant gun owners'?

In other words, what IS 'accepted gun ownership', and to WHO, EXACTLY?

8 No one.

So, what this ACTUALLY MEANS is that the 'current' MISBEHAVIOR in society, in the days when this being written, might ACTUALLY get FAR WORSE, If EVERY one was to own a gun.

9 Yes.

So, to you, just because one or two people own guns, then EVERY one "ELSE" should OWN guns AS WELL, in order to 'protect' "themselves" from just that one or two people who owned guns originally.

Can you REALLY NOT SEE the ABSOLUTELY ABSURDITY of 'this'?

10 No.

So, to you, it is NOT SMARTER and WISER to RID 'the world' of the just one or two guns in existence and instead 'arm' EVERY one "ELSE" WITH guns.

11 No reason.

Okay, so to you it is a MUCH BETTER idea if EVERY one KEPT 'arming' "themselves" with BIGGER and BIGGER, and continually MORE and MORE EFFICIENT WEAPONS and KILLING machines rather than just RIDDING 'the world' of one, two, or more guns.

12 No reason.

So you can NOT, REALLY, SEE ANY reason WHY EVERY one should 'arm' "themselves" WITH BIGGER and BETTER KILLING machines. Yet you still think or BELIEVE that 'this' is a MUCH BETTER idea than just taking ALL weapons out of society/'the world'.

13 See #12.

you have NO reason AT ALL for what you consider to be a BETTER idea here.

14 Right.

But RIDING 'the world' of ALL weapons would NOT protect you BETTER than a continual increase of weapons and of bigger weapons would.

15 No, probably not.

So, you only THINK that it is 'probably not' the 'Right thing' to do. I will INFORM you that it is DEFINITELY NOT the ACTUAL 'Right thing' to do.

16 In my heart, mind and soul.

Do 'you', REALLY, HAVE or POSSESS a 'heart', 'mind' AND 'soul'?

If yes, then will 'you' INFORM 'us' of who and/or what 'you' ARE, EXACTLY, and HOW 'you' could HAVE, or POSSESS, 'those three things', and then DEFINE what 'those three things' ARE, EXACTLY?

THEN will 'you' INFORM 'us' of HOW, EXACTLY, some so-called "american spirit" could come to exist in the so-called 'your heart', 'your mind', and 'your soul', EXACTLY?

If yes to both, then GREAT.

But if no to either, then WHY NOT?

17 Correct.

'This' is just HOW Truly STUPID and INSANE SOME adult human beings, back in those days, HAD ACTUALLY BECAME.

'This one' ACTUALLY BELIEVES, WHOLEHEARTEDLY, that, 'Loading "one's" 'self' UP WITH MORE and BIGGER WEAPONRY than what THE "other" has, is the 'right way' of THINKING and DOING.

And what IS Truly AMAZING to WATCH and OBSERVE happening here is that 'this one' started this thread thinking or BELIEVING the EXACT OPPOSITE of this here.

SO, just WITHIN a few days, and in fact with just one minuscule post, 'this one' was ABLE TO be CONVINCED as some 'thing' as ABSURD and RIDICULOUS AS; EVERY one SHOULD 'load' "themselves' UP with MORE BIGGER and BIGGER WEAPONS, and the TOTALLY ILLOGICAL PART, to 'protect' "themselves" FROM "themselves".

18 See#10.

But 'this question' was NOT a 'Yes' NOR a 'No' answer question.

19 Same as above.

20 Ask Skepdick.

So you FOLLOW and thus ARE GUIDED by "another's" VIEWS, but you, "yourself", do NOT even KNOW WHY 'those views' are, SUPPOSEDLY, 'right'.

21 Yes.

22 Yes.

23 Yes.

24 Ask Skepdick.

I DID.

25 Ask Skepdick.

I DID.

THANK you PROFUSELY for CLARIFYING here. It IS VERY REFRESHING to SEE. and HEAR.

No. q.v. MAD.

Yes.

Maybe.

You made the presumption.

Criminal activity.

Absence of criminal activity.

No.

Yes.

No.

No.

No.

So to the entity that calls itself “Age”, whether normal human or not, it is important and necessary and even lots of fun to attribute absurd conclusions to the posts of others without reason or reasonable evidence to do so, even at the annoyance of others and especially at the annoyance of others just because it believes that only it can provide wisdom for the posters on PNF.

[To anyone who may be aware of what I edited, I can only say that I had a brain fart.]

[Skepdick]

Skepdick, can you tell more about the need for guns in South Africa particularly?

I don't know much about the history there, aside from I've heard it's a very volatile, lawless, and violent country.

You definitely have my sympathy in living in such a criminal environment. Western Liberal Elitists cannot empathize with your situation, ignore them.

Not really sure what to say.

A complex socio-political situation with shitty side-effects and no easy answers made worse by thieving politicians.

It's pretty silly that we have to pay 45% taxes in exchange for which we get no seafety/security; no access to healthcare, no public transport, no public education for our kids and no electricity for 12 hours a day during winter.

So those fortunate enough to have the means iinvest their own capital in security, solar power + inverters, water purifiers, medical care, education etc. All the sort of stuff Europeans take for granted. None of this is tax deductable.

Part of this do-it-yourself attitude entails carrying a gun like you carry a smartphone; or your wallet. It's just part of the stuff you carry.

And for the folks who live in the rural areas and farm lands - hunting is a big part of the culture. It's how a lot of people put food on the table still.

[Age]

Skepticism doesn't work in practice.

What's that supposed to mean? You come out with the most stupid comments.

You've defaulted to skepticism on my being a policeman. You've arrived at the wrong conclusion.

The point of reasoning is to arrive at the correct conclusion, so your way of reasoning doesn't work in practice.

So, are 'you' here now SAYING, and/or CLAIMING, that being a 'skeptic' does NOT work, in practice, "skepdick"?

[Age]

Skepdick, can you tell more about the need for guns in South Africa particularly?

I don't know much about the history there, aside from I've heard it's a very volatile, lawless, and violent country.

A LOT of countries ARE, which have a LOT of guns within them, and where a LOT of citizens BELIEVE that they HAVE some 'right' to OWN guns.

You definitely have my sympathy in living in such a criminal environment.

But this one LOVES 'that country', which ALLOWS 'it' to HAVE as MANY guns and/or weapons as 'it' likes. In Fact 'this one' LOVES 'that kind of country' that 'it' does NOT want to leave 'it'. So, WHY, EXACTLY, would 'you' DEFINITELY have 'sympathy' for one living EXACTLY WHERE and HOW 'it' WANTS TO?

Western Liberal Elitists cannot empathize with your situation, ignore them.

WHY would these so-called "LABELED people"?

"skepdick" WANTS to LIVE IN 'that type of country', in which 'it' does.

In Fact "skepdick" is VERY PROUD that 'it' lives in a country where absolutely EVERY one is ALLOWED to OWN as MANY and as BIG and EFFICIENT guns, weapons, or KILLING MACHINES as one WANTS. So, 'what' is there to have EMPATHIZE WITH here, EXACTLY?