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Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:11 pm
by reasonvemotion
2 Timothy 3:2-4 says that . . . in the last days people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, lovers of pleasure

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:59 am
by chaz wyman
reasonvemotion wrote:
2 Timothy 3:2-4 says that . . . in the last days people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, lovers of pleasure
Then the last of days has been happening for 2500 years since the invention of money

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:59 pm
by reasonvemotion
Strauss said

The purpose of the jews is to show there is no such thing as redemption. :|

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:39 pm
by chaz wyman
reasonvemotion wrote:Strauss said

The purpose of the jews is to show there is no such thing as redemption. :|
Whose purpose?

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:22 am
by reasonvemotion
Sigh...............

Daring to believe in God today, is unfashionable. Why? Because you lose everything, emphasis on materialistic.

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:28 am
by chaz wyman
reasonvemotion wrote:Sigh...............

Daring to believe in God today, is unfashionable. Why? Because you lose everything, emphasis on materialistic.

I think 1.3 billion Muslims would disagree.
Daring to believe in god is unfashionable because its medieval thinking. Its nothing whatever to do with materialism.

Daring to reject god is easy because you loose nothing

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:04 pm
by mtmynd1
reasonvemotion wrote:Daring to believe in God today, is unfashionable. Why?
"Daring" is a daring word to use... dramatic, as if a believer is pitting themselves against all non-believers when in fact, 'God' has become nothing more than a word that has lost it's meaning solely because far too few have any idea what (a) 'god' is. Ask 100 people what 'god' is and you'll get 100 different answers. Preachers, Rabbis, Priests, Reverends... no matter the faith, no matter the title, the vast majority of those who 'speak for god' are just as fallible as those whom they address. This only compounds the misunderstanding, creating even greater myths and more confusion until society approaches, per your quote, "... the last days (when) people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, lovers of pleasure," all due to lack of knowing themselves.

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:19 pm
by chaz wyman
mtmynd1 wrote:
reasonvemotion wrote:Daring to believe in God today, is unfashionable. Why?
"Daring" is a daring word to use... dramatic, as if a believer is pitting themselves against all non-believers when in fact, 'God' has become nothing more than a word that has lost it's meaning solely because far too few have any idea what (a) 'god' is. Ask 100 people what 'god' is and you'll get 100 different answers. Preachers, Rabbis, Priests, Reverends... no matter the faith, no matter the title, the vast majority of those who 'speak for god' are just as fallible as those whom they address. This only compounds the misunderstanding, creating even greater myths and more confusion until society approaches, per your quote, "... the last days (when) people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, lovers of pleasure," all due to lack of knowing themselves.
There is a reason there is 100 different versions of god.
I think we have always been in the 'last days' since money was invented. I'm not expecting views on god or whether or not such a thing is meaningful to have any bearing on the 'last days'.

Re: Christianity's Immoral Foundation

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:34 pm
by ForgedinHell
reasonvemotion wrote:Sigh...............

Daring to believe in God today, is unfashionable. Why? Because you lose everything, emphasis on materialistic.
What have you lost by believing in god? Today, I will watch multi-millionaire preachers on TV asking for more and more money be mailed into them by the viewers. (I actually don't watch them, but I know they are there when I flip through channels.) It appears one may believe in god and use it to start a million-dollar business. What is lost again? One also joins the majority in a nation like the US, so what does one lose by joining the majority?