Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

How does science work? And what's all this about quantum mechanics?

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My take on evolution is...

Evolution happened naturally, the current array of species on earth evolved
9
75%
Evolution happened, except for humans - humans were created
1
8%
Evolution happened, but it was a guided process by a divine or intelligent being
0
No votes
Evolution did not happen
2
17%
 
Total votes: 12

Martin Peter Clarke
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Re: Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:21 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:13 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:08 am

1. Do you understand that i stated SINCE 1997. So it's not merely what happened to me 28 years ago - it's ever since then, and I will state A LOT has happened courtesy of this entity you have no belief in.

2. What of your statement..."But not by me. I don't believe. I can't. I can only know." Descartes pretty much had the utlimate and only statement pertaining to what we can be certain of, to what we know - cogito ergo sum. Regarding belief and your reluctance to believe should only be reflected in something you find implausible in the concept, in this case GOD or at least, some intelligence being the construct to our perceivable REAL_IT_Y.

Is it implausible that an intelligence operates at or below the Planck scale and is the construct to our perceivable reality?
It's unnecessary. And leaves no trace whatsoever. In you in 28 years or in nature from forever.
What's unnecessary?

Traces abound, GOD has left fingerprints.
That an intelligence operates at or below the Planck scale and is the construct to our perceivable reality.

None have been detected. Only by the flawed lens of faith.
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Re: Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:38 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:21 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:13 am

It's unnecessary. And leaves no trace whatsoever. In you in 28 years or in nature from forever.
What's unnecessary?

Traces abound, GOD has left fingerprints.
That an intelligence operates at or below the Planck scale and is the construct to our perceivable reality.

None have been detected. Only by the flawed lens of faith.
"None have been detected"? Incorrect - per my 28 years of experience of this entity.

"Flawed by faith" - no flaw, just a requirement requested via this entity PRIOR to gnosis, knowledge given to one that had faith - moi. Ergo, no faith, no knowledge of the true nature of reality - that there IS an intelligence behind the construct to our REAL_IT_Y.
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Re: Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

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There is no such thing as Darwinian Evolution. Species don't change gradually caused by survival of the fittest. Like all life at all levels and of all types change occurs suddenly. It occurs at population bottlenecks that select not for fitness but for behavior/ consciousness.

Evolution is a mirage caused bad assumptions and reasoning in circles. Change in species occurs very rapidly either through mutation or at bottlenecks.
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Re: Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

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cladking wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 6:42 pm There is no such thing as Darwinian Evolution. Species don't change gradually caused by survival of the fittest. Like all life at all levels and of all types change occurs suddenly. It occurs at population bottlenecks that select not for fitness but for behavior/ consciousness.

Evolution is a mirage caused bad assumptions and reasoning in circles. Change in species occurs very rapidly either through mutation or at bottlenecks.
You seem really confused.
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Re: Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

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I'm always amazed how many people believe in "Evolution" but can't show one single experiment that supports gradual change in species or survival of the fittest!!!

All observed change in all life, all individuals, and all species shows very sudden changes. What we see is mutation and bottlenecks causing changes based on behavior (consciousness) and both of these processes are very sudden. You can't deduce how species change by pondering fossils.
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Re: Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

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cladking wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:00 pm I'm always amazed how many people believe in "Evolution" but can't show one single experiment that supports gradual change in species or survival of the fittest!!!

All observed change in all life, all individuals, and all species shows very sudden changes. What we see is mutation and bottlenecks causing changes based on behavior (consciousness) and both of these processes are very sudden. You can't deduce how species change by pondering fossils.
Right? Unlike creationists who can point to numerous experiments that support the sudden creation of the Earth 6000 years ago.
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Re: Poll on the forum denizens views on evolution

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LuckyR wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:21 am
cladking wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:00 pm I'm always amazed how many people believe in "Evolution" but can't show one single experiment that supports gradual change in species or survival of the fittest!!!

All observed change in all life, all individuals, and all species shows very sudden changes. What we see is mutation and bottlenecks causing changes based on behavior (consciousness) and both of these processes are very sudden. You can't deduce how species change by pondering fossils.
Right? Unlike creationists who can point to numerous experiments that support the sudden creation of the Earth 6000 years ago.
The alternative to bad science is never religion, it is better science.
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