Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Atla
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Also, president Biden went back in time and planted those little green men in Ukraine in 2014.
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Age wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:58 pm
Atla wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:30 pm
Age wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:19 pm

But, 'who' is 'the loser', here, exactly?

Obviously the "united states of america" is not and can not win, so it is 'losing' and 'the loser', here. Thus, why "donald trump" wants to just 'give up' and 'hand over' "ukraine" to "russia".

The "united states of america" can not beat "russia", here.
And just how do you know that?
If you would like for me to answer and clarify this clarifying question, here, then you will have to be far more specific in relation to what the 'that' word is in relation to, exactly.
Atla wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:30 pm If the US would continue its support for Ukraine and Europe would increase its support, Russia could be stopped at least, maybe eventually even pushed back. Continuing to bleed out Russia in Ukraine, while not investing as much into the conflict as Russia, would be a strategic win for the US. But now Trump is trying to force both Ukraine and the US to lose.
You quoted the specifics and skipped them.
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Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:03 am
Age wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:58 pm
Atla wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:30 pm
And just how do you know that?
If you would like for me to answer and clarify this clarifying question, here, then you will have to be far more specific in relation to what the 'that' word is in relation to, exactly.
Atla wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:30 pm If the US would continue its support for Ukraine and Europe would increase its support, Russia could be stopped at least, maybe eventually even pushed back. Continuing to bleed out Russia in Ukraine, while not investing as much into the conflict as Russia, would be a strategic win for the US. But now Trump is trying to force both Ukraine and the US to lose.
You quoted the specifics and skipped them.
So, there are at least three things that you want me to inform you of how I know of, right?

By the way, I did not skipped any thing. I instead asked you to clarify, in order to skip any and all confusion, however you obviously skipped doing this, once more.
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Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:28 am
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:03 am
Age wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:58 pm

If you would like for me to answer and clarify this clarifying question, here, then you will have to be far more specific in relation to what the 'that' word is in relation to, exactly.

You quoted the specifics and skipped them.
So, there are at least three things that you want me to inform you of how I know of, right?
No.
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Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:31 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:28 am
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:03 am
You quoted the specifics and skipped them.
So, there are at least three things that you want me to inform you of how I know of, right?
No.
And, once again, this one fails, absolutely, in providing clarity and just clarifying things.
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Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:32 am
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:31 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:28 am

So, there are at least three things that you want me to inform you of how I know of, right?
No.
And, once again, this one fails, absolutely, in providing clarity and just clarifying things.
I'm not required to cater to your autistic needs whenever you completely fail to understand ordinary human communication.
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Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:15 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:32 am
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:31 am
No.
And, once again, this one fails, absolutely, in providing clarity and just clarifying things.
I'm not required to cater to your autistic needs whenever you completely fail to understand ordinary human communication.
Of course you are not. But that is still not an 'excuse' for all of the times that you have failed, absolutely, in elaborating and/or clarifying.

And, you are not even able to clarify nor prove that, as well.
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Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:38 am
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:15 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 12:32 am

And, once again, this one fails, absolutely, in providing clarity and just clarifying things.
I'm not required to cater to your autistic needs whenever you completely fail to understand ordinary human communication.
Of course you are not. But that is still not an 'excuse' for all of the times that you have failed, absolutely, in elaborating and/or clarifying.

And, you are not even able to clarify nor prove that, as well.
Yes, it is an excuse.
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Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:40 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:38 am
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:15 am

I'm not required to cater to your autistic needs whenever you completely fail to understand ordinary human communication.
Of course you are not. But that is still not an 'excuse' for all of the times that you have failed, absolutely, in elaborating and/or clarifying.

And, you are not even able to clarify nor prove that, as well.
Yes, it is an excuse.
If you really want to say it is an excuse for your failings and inabilities, then by all means keep on using excuses. you are, obviously, absolute, free to do so.
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:41 pm
I'm talking about Zelensky, and about what his incompetence and foolishness is going to result in...the continued killing of Ukrainians, whereas he could be working on a peace deal. But I suspect he doesn't want one: he's making too much money reselling American arms at 20% of their value, on the black market right now. He just wants that gravy train to keep rolling, so he has no interest in peace...and even less in democracy.
...and how do you know all that? What you're saying is that Putin and Trump are the real peacemakers, while Zelensky is just in it for the money! You're an outstanding Putin/Trump propagandist. So, again what's the source for your assertions?


Again, I repeat what's your source for this statement?
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Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:09 am ...and how do you know all that?
Wait and see. It'll all come out.
What you're saying...
No, Cathy Newman, I'm not "saying" any words you're trying to put in my mouth.
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:30 am
Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:09 am ...and how do you know all that?
Wait and see. It'll all come out.
What you're saying...
No, Cathy Newman, I'm not "saying" any words you're trying to put in my mouth.
For it to all come out there has to be prior data indicating the possiblity that it may all eventually reveal itself.

You even asserted as fact that...he's making too much money reselling American arms at 20% of their value, on the black market right now.

That is a very specific and serious statement of indictment! Where did you get that from?
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:49 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:30 am
Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:09 am ...and how do you know all that?
Wait and see. It'll all come out.
What you're saying...
No, Cathy Newman, I'm not "saying" any words you're trying to put in my mouth.
For it to all come out there has to be prior data indicating the possiblity that it may all eventually reveal itself.
Yep.

You're not going to believe it now, but you will later. Wait until it all comes out.
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:49 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:30 am
Dubious wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:09 am ...and how do you know all that?
Wait and see. It'll all come out.
What you're saying...
No, Cathy Newman, I'm not "saying" any words you're trying to put in my mouth.
For it to all come out there has to be prior data indicating the possiblity that it may all eventually reveal itself.

You even asserted as fact that...he's making too much money reselling American arms at 20% of their value, on the black market right now.

That is a very specific and serious statement of indictment! Where did you get that from?
For everyone's information, I used ChatGPT to verify the statement. Here is the conclusion I got from it:
In summary, while there have been isolated incidents of U.S. military equipment in Ukraine being diverted to unauthorized users, there is no substantial evidence to support claims of widespread or systematic black market sales by the Ukrainian military.
https://chatgpt.com/share/67c53dca-876c ... 0bbd3d7e19
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Re: Trump is not offering peace in Ukraine

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Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:06 am
Atla wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:40 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:38 am

Of course you are not. But that is still not an 'excuse' for all of the times that you have failed, absolutely, in elaborating and/or clarifying.

And, you are not even able to clarify nor prove that, as well.
Yes, it is an excuse.
If you really want to say it is an excuse for your failings and inabilities, then by all means keep on using excuses. you are, obviously, absolute, free to do so.
Nope, it's about not spending dozens of hours on your inabilities.
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