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Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:43 pm And in my view everyone responds as if in an existential crisis and a psychological pressure-cooker.

Most of us don't have an existential crisis. If that's what you're projecting on others then may I suggest that you're getting seriously unwell.

No Atla, I speak of a general social & spiritual crisis that afflicts a decadent, uncentered culture. You could say civilizational crisis.

But do you know what most interests me in what you say? That you seem ignorant of the crisis.

Therefore, my references (Wotan and After The Catastrophe) flies over your head. You have no idea about important psychological ideas such as expressed in Jung’s The Unknown Self.

You seem to lack a base from which to think about and talk about contemporary issues and events.

And it is not just unfamiliarity with Jung but a whole range of basic stuff.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:02 pm No Atla, I speak of a general social & spiritual crisis that afflicts a decadent, uncentered culture. You could say civilizational crisis.

But do you know what most interests me in what you say? That you seem ignorant of the crisis.

Therefore, my references (Wotan and After The Catastrophe) flies over your head. You have no idea about important psychological ideas such as expressed in Jung’s The Unknown Self.

You seem to lack a base from which to think about and talk about contemporary issues and events.

And it is not just unfamiliarity with Jung but a whole range of basic stuff.

Almost everyone sees the crisis, it has been building up for decades. It's remarkable that you think I don't see it. Actually you're a Dunning-Kruger descending into psychosis. (And due to your inherent em. disconnect, you'll never have a firm grasp on psychological matters either.)

I am glad that I was able to clear up the misunderstanding.

Why, I ask, did you misunderstand what I wrote previously?

Actually you're a Dunning-Kruger descending into psychosis.

It is more accurate to realize that I am an innocently inexperienced demi-god who nonetheless is rapidly gaining ground …

Can we at least agree on this?!

Almost everyone sees the crisis, it has been building up for decades.

Oh? And what is the nature of the crisis? Why is it happening?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:02 pm No Atla, I speak of a general social & spiritual crisis that afflicts a decadent, uncentered culture. You could say civilizational crisis.

But do you know what most interests me in what you say? That you seem ignorant of the crisis.

Therefore, my references (Wotan and After The Catastrophe) flies over your head. You have no idea about important psychological ideas such as expressed in Jung’s The Unknown Self.

You seem to lack a base from which to think about and talk about contemporary issues and events.

And it is not just unfamiliarity with Jung but a whole range of basic stuff.

Also, who are you to say that I'm unfamiliar with Jung. Maybe I'm just not a DK like you and have taken into consideration that the German "collective" psyche is a bit unique and its behaviour isn't quite applicable to other nations. I also happen to be quite familiar with accessing the individual subcobscious/unconscious.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:15 pm I am glad that I was able to clear up the misunderstanding.

Why, I ask, did you misunderstand what I wrote previously?

Actually you're a Dunning-Kruger descending into psychosis.

It is more accurate to realize that I am an innocently inexperienced demi-god who nonetheless is rapidly gaining ground …

Can we at least agree on this?!

Almost everyone sees the crisis, it has been building up for decades.

Oh? And what is the nature of the crisis? Why is it happening?

You're not a demi-god and you're clearly not gaining any ground. You are descending into psychosis. You're just coming across more and more like Age.

And do you understand how big a part of the crisis is that if people stop restraining themselves we'll soon end up with nuclear armageddon? No you're completely blind to the fact.

Musk X feed this morning - an image of the EU flag with an addition in the middle, sums up wots actually happening to Europe and what Keir Stalin wants for UK..

Musk's comment was something to the effect of "There is nothing like being owned by your government when your government in owned by another government."

(I am new to twitter - when I click on the notification - where I saw the original, I seem to be at a loss as to how to find that original again - hence my rewording, basically the gist of what he said)

..the image was around about this:


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Atla wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:17 pmMaybe I'm just not a DK like you and have taken into consideration that the German "collective" psyche is a bit unique and its behaviour isn't quite applicable to other nations.

“Isn’t quite” but then could somewhat be? You give and take in the same statement.

The primary message as far as I am concerned (thinking of the essay Wotan) would have to do simply with pre-signaling of events of moment which are presented by “the signs of the times”.

BTW just now reading Germania by Tacitus.

You're not a demi-god and you're clearly not gaining any ground. You are descending into psychosis. You're just coming across more and more like Age.

Wait, no?! Can it be?! It can’t be! No, no, I am certain I am a demigod but to be fair just a rather run-if-the-mill variety and yet because I know this, humble.

You are trying to trip me up and I assure you it won’t work!

You're just coming across more and more like Age.

A lowercase Age! (In the days when this was being written of course!)

But let’s ad an ‘s’ — Sage! And yes, I agree.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:24 pm And do you understand how big a part of the crisis is that if people stop restraining themselves we'll soon end up with nuclear Armageddon? No you're completely blind to the fact.

If this is so then it is likely a very good idea to bring the Ukraine-Russia conflict to an end. Even if it involves some level of surrender.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:06 pm BTW just now reading Germania by Tacitus.

..an excellent read!

(*kidding, watched a doco along those lines - very interesting - the Germanic tribes were brutal)

Describing an aspect of the Germanic ethos:

14. When the battlefield is reached it is a reproach for a chief to be surpassed in prowess; a reproach for his retinue not to equal the prowess of its chief: but to have left the field and survived one's chief, this means lifelong infamy and shame: to defend and protect him, to devote one's own feats even to his glorification, this is the gist of their allegiance: the chief fights for victory, but the retainers for the chief.

Made me think of Macbeth’s treachery as something felt as deeply evil. Whatever forces and powers enticed him to receive his chief into his home and then murder him is so utterly out of tune to a deeply ingrained ethos that it is no wonder the dark feeling in that play is one of an encounter with acute evil. The absolute worst thing a man, and his woman, could do. Literally abominable. I.e. “bad omened”.

Interestingly, the revival of a national self-defensive spirit — as in what is happening in England with a rise in deep-seated psychic anger against those who cross the line with vulnerable girls, has ultra-deep roots in a Germanic mood. (I mean Germanic in the widest sense: the region of Europe understood to be Germanic). Can this be examined through analysis of archetypes?

..yes, there are deep rumblings among the British people and it's not because of the German sausage.

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:24 pm You are descending into psychosis.

At least I am stocked up with really good Argentinian wines!

If you are going to utterly flip out it is recommended to at least do it in style and in some enjoyment.

A good wine takes the hard edge off of madness, yes?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:54 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:24 pm You are descending into psychosis.

At least I am stocked up with really good Argentinian wines!

If you are going to utterly flip out it is recommended to at least do it in style and in some enjoyment.

A good wine takes the hard edge off of madness, yes?

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