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Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:32 am "We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled — doubled — since we were children. We know the statistics — that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. They are more likely to have behavioral problems, or run away from home or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it."

Barack Obama, 2008

Then just be honest and say that it's black parents you think make awful parents. Stop hiding behind your 'single mother' bullshit. You are just embarrassing yourself. Where I'm from most of the child abuse is committed by one particular ethnicity.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:37 am Sorry, IC.

No problems, Gary...you and I are good. No need to apologize...I knew where your heart was.

And me, I'm ten feet tall and bullet proof.

I agree with Dontaskme and Veggie in regard to Mr. Can. He's a snake who, much of the time, is either evil or has no self-awareness. Many have called him out on it. He parades around for the few who are gullible enough to be impressed by such transparent arrogance, pleasuring himself openly. And he gorges himself on the lies and distortions he spews...as if he is some great authority who speaks only of truths and facts and data. What a load of shit.

I've watched as he and Henry continually dismiss what Belinda says... as if they always have the final, accurate, correct, and divine word. You've both demonstrated how skewed your viewpoints are in order to make yourselves always "right". Fuck you! Clearly, you rarely see anything beyond your shriveled-up self-serving brains... and you just keep congratulating each other for it.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:45 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:32 am "We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled — doubled — since we were children. We know the statistics — that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. They are more likely to have behavioral problems, or run away from home or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it."

Barack Obama, 2008

Then just be honest and say that it's black parents you think make awful parents.

So that's what you think Barack Obama was saying? That's what you make of it?

Gee...that's pretty...racist.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:47 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:45 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:32 am "We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled — doubled — since we were children. We know the statistics — that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. They are more likely to have behavioral problems, or run away from home or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it."

Barack Obama, 2008

Then just be honest and say that it's black parents you think make awful parents.

So that's what you think Barack Obama was saying? That's what you make of it?

Gee...that's pretty...racist.

Ooh. I'm offended. It's what you were getting at all along. If it's true it's true, just don't hide behind your 'kristian nuclear family' fantasy bullshit.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:53 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:47 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:45 am

Then just be honest and say that it's black parents you think make awful parents.

So that's what you think Barack Obama was saying? That's what you make of it?

Gee...that's pretty...racist.

Ooh. I'm offended.

Well, you said it.

Me, I just believe Mr. Obama. He says single-parent households don't do well. And he says "we know the statistics."

So now you've got both him and me to dismiss, as well as all the websites I cited...and which you clearly refused to look at.

Fear of data.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:57 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:53 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:47 am
So that's what you think Barack Obama was saying? That's what you make of it?

Gee...that's pretty...racist.

Ooh. I'm offended.

Well, you said it.

Me, I just believe Mr. Obama. He says single-parent households don't do well. And he says "we know the statistics."

So now you've got both him and me to dismiss, as well as all the websites I cited...and which you clearly refused to look at.

Fear of data.

He's the one who brought up black people. It's a bit ironic when Obama was brought up by a white mother in a single parent household

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:59 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:57 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:53 am
Ooh. I'm offended.

Well, you said it.

Me, I just believe Mr. Obama. He says single-parent households don't do well. And he says "we know the statistics."

So now you've got both him and me to dismiss, as well as all the websites I cited...and which you clearly refused to look at.

Fear of data.

He's the one who brought up black people. It's a bit ironic when Obama was brought up by a white mother in a single parent household

Ah. So now, the first president-of-colour is a racist?

Or are you now finally recognizing he was talking about single-parenthood, not about blackness?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:01 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:59 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:57 am
Well, you said it.

Me, I just believe Mr. Obama. He says single-parent households don't do well. And he says "we know the statistics."

So now you've got both him and me to dismiss, as well as all the websites I cited...and which you clearly refused to look at.

Fear of data.

He's the one who brought up black people. It's a bit ironic when Obama was brought up by a white mother in a single parent household

Ah. So now, the first president-of-colour is a racist?

Or are you now finally recognizing he was talking about single-parenthood, not about blackness?

Why would that make him a racist?

And are you suggesting that the govt. provide husbands, with a guarantee that they will be 'good' and 'morally upstanding'? What's YOUR solution to this terrible lack of 'upstanding kristian nuclear families' and plague of 'immoral women' having babies without the support of 'fine, upstanding kristian males'?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:03 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:01 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:59 am

He's the one who brought up black people. It's a bit ironic when Obama was brought up by a white mother in a single parent household

Ah. So now, the first president-of-colour is a racist?

Or are you now finally recognizing he was talking about single-parenthood, not about blackness?

Why would that make him a racist?

Moot point.

He wasn't talking about race, but about the statistical correllation between single-parenting and such things as criminality, early pregnancy and poverty -- exactly the same things I have been pointing out -- and he was able to say that in public, as part of a major speech, without fear of being challenged at all, because what he said all the sociologists know is true.

You just don't want to hear it...especially from me, I guess. Too bad. Hear it from Obama.

You never answer anything. What a fucking waste of space you are.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 2:16 am You never answer anything. What a fucking waste of space you are.

He cannot answer the hard controversial responses he gets. Why, because he firmly believes he's got life all figured out, and to think he only showed up a few seconds ago within the grand scheme of things.

The guy is just another deluded trickster, falsely believing that KNOWLEDGE is his personal knowledge, and that he has been endowed with a particular expertise in his self-proclaimed self-aggrandizing religious field.

Also falsely believing, his knowledge is what characterises HIM as a person, it's a special kind of delusion he is addicted to, one of unfounded sure certainty of being totally correct, and morally superior to others. He had demonstrated this vile and much annoying trait over and over and over again. He's an unstoppable force, he's a worn out walking cliché.

And just remember, you are not forced into believing a single word he says. Verbal persuasion is just not his style. In other words, he's just spouting nonsense like everyone else he accuses of doing same. Idiots are everywhere.

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Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:36 am

If we've got any hope of knowing God, it will only be as God reaches out to us.

Just making that claim is a sign of sure certainty - a knowledge that does not exist in nature, except within the hominid brain, exclusive to.

Just keep deluding yourself your blindness will one day see what it is you are hoping for. Or you could just face reality as it really is, as it actually is before you decorated it with your wishy washy imagination...

You wouldn't like reality how it actually is, and you know it. Just surrender, like that fabled Jesus character did, and die.

Back to the topic of Marriage.

My two cents...marriage between two people, is nothing more than legalised slavery... a force, self-imposed and authorised by humanity itself, disguised as a nomenclature pagan culture.

Children born into this slavery are forced into playing out the same drama. Some lucky ones manage quite naturally to see through the drama for the fakery it is, they automatically know it's not a natural way to live. Animals do not marry other animals, willingly committing themselves to being another animals property.

Those who are smart enough to see through the charade of human drama, smile, and live out the rest of their life shining, until their light fades to grey, and returns to it's natural state of being, the state of blissful unbounded freedom and non-existence.


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Love and marriage
Go together
Like a horse and carriage


The verse endures because of truth, not rhyme.