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Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:00 pm
by Sculptor
raw_thought wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:30 pm
It is not a contradiction to say that it is raining now but it was clear yesterday.
It is always raining somewhere.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:03 pm
by raw_thought
yes so it is not a contradiction
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:04 pm
by raw_thought
You wrote,"(P and -P) are two different points in spacetime too.
What's your point?"
that obviously since we are talking about 2 different places in spacetime there is no contradiction.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:07 pm
by raw_thought
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:10 pm
by raw_thought
Time is the 4th dimension. The other 3 are height depth and width. A point in spacetime can have the same height, depth and time but is not at the same place width wise.
https://plus.maths.org/content/what-block-time
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:12 pm
by raw_thought
Just because 2 objects exist now ( 2020 ) Does not mean that they are the same object.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:13 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:03 pm
yes so it is not a contradiction
It is a contradiction.
you are interpreting it wrong.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:14 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:04 pm
that obviously since we are talking about 2 different places in spacetime there is no contradiction.
Then you are necessarily saying that contradictions don't exist.
No two moments in time are the same moment in time.
No two places in space are the same place in space.
No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.--Heraclitus
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:16 pm
by raw_thought
yes,And yes true contradictions do not exist.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:17 pm
by raw_thought
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:18 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:16 pm
yes,And yes true contradictions do not exist.
Truth or falsity is irrelevant.
Contradictions don't exist. Full stop.
Show me one.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:20 pm
by Skepdick
What a stupid article.
From any given point in the block which way is "the future" ?
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:21 pm
by raw_thought
There is no universal "now". Imagine a time line. a____b____c . b is in the future relative a. b is in the past relative to c.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:22 pm
by Skepdick
raw_thought wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:21 pm
There is no universal "now". Imagine a time line. a____b____c . b is in the future relative a. b is in the past relative to c.
Then there is no universal "now" then there can be no contradictions.
A contradiction requires
the same NOW.
Re: P=P is a Contradiction
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:22 pm
by raw_thought
You wrote, "What a stupid article."
OK you can disagree with Einstein's Relativity. But it has been confirmed many times.