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Re: God(s)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:22 pm
by nothing
Actually P is subject to other variable under a tautology.
1. P actually has four poles as two pairs of conjugates: only two are being discussed as the other two are counter-space.
2. Why? Because you say it is?

Re: God(s)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:21 pm
by Eodnhoj7
nothing wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:22 pm
Actually P is subject to other variable under a tautology.
1. P actually has four poles as two pairs of conjugates: only two are being discussed as the other two are counter-space.
2. Why? Because you say it is?




P only exists because of the variables it manifests as.

If it is a cow, then (P <--> C).

If the number one, then (P-->n1).

Etc.

P can represent an infinite number of things and as such P exists if and only if it is infinite.

P is infinite and any statement that determines what P is makes P finite. In shorter terms P is defined by contexts outside of it.

If I say:

"P"

"P eats grass in a field."

"P is the color red."

"P is not happy".

In each of these contexts P means a different thing, in the first it can mean anything, however in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th it means a different things as the variables outside it define it.


Re: God(s)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:05 pm
by nothing
P only exists because of the variables it manifests as.
There is only one variable with P: potential.
If it is a cow, then (P <--> C).

If the number one, then (P-->n1).
It is any (im)potential (un)conscious being.
P can represent an infinite number of things...
No, it can not.
P is infinite...
No, it is not.

...only in potential.
If I say:
You do not say.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:51 pm
by Eodnhoj7
nothing wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:05 pm
P only exists because of the variables it manifests as.
There is only one variable with P: potential.
If it is a cow, then (P <--> C).

If the number one, then (P-->n1).
It is any (im)potential (un)conscious being.
P can represent an infinite number of things...
No, it can not.
P is infinite...
No, it is not.

...only in potential.
If I say:
You do not say.
Potentially is unactualized form from one angle of awareness, actual from another.

From a time zone where A progresses to B to B1 both B and B1 are potential.

From a time zone where A progressed to C and C can progress to D or D1, B as a potential in one time zone is an actual in another.


All knowledge exists through time.

You cannot say P is strictly potential, when P itself is actual as a quality that contains dynamic change (ie the further variables which stem from it).

Re: God(s)

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 pm
by nothing
Potentially is unactualized form from one angle of awareness, actual from another.
I actually see it from a potentially dissimilar angle.
From a time zone where A progresses to B to B1 both B and B1 are potential.
From a time zone where A progressed to C and C can progress to D or D1, B as a potential in one time zone is an actual in another.
B has no intrinsic potential until A is actualized.
P is taken as its own isolated arbitrary variable.

O --/-> P --/-> Q
All knowledge exists through time.
It exists independent of it.
You cannot say P is strictly potential, when P itself is actual as a quality that contains dynamic change (ie the further variables which stem from it).
P is not strictly potential.
*P is a definite(ly unknown) variable which can behave according to a variable potential vs. actualized motion(s) viz. direction/orientation.

I have a circled pentagram.

LEG+2 CREATION
ARM -1 = Knowledge-negating-belief
HEAD: *P viz. will; equal capacity for good/evil
ARM +1 = Belief-based-ignorance
LEG -2 DESTRUCTION
______________________________________________________
-P Tree of Living Forever
+P Tree of Suffering/Death

Re: God(s)

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:42 pm
by Eodnhoj7
nothing wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 pm
Potentially is unactualized form from one angle of awareness, actual from another.
I actually see it from a potentially dissimilar angle.
From a time zone where A progresses to B to B1 both B and B1 are potential.
From a time zone where A progressed to C and C can progress to D or D1, B as a potential in one time zone is an actual in another.
B has no intrinsic potential until A is actualized.
P is taken as its own isolated arbitrary variable.

O --/-> P --/-> Q
All knowledge exists through time.
It exists independent of it.
You cannot say P is strictly potential, when P itself is actual as a quality that contains dynamic change (ie the further variables which stem from it).
P is not strictly potential.
*P is a definite(ly unknown) variable which can behave according to a variable potential vs. actualized motion(s) viz. direction/orientation.

I have a circled pentagram.

LEG+2 CREATION
ARM -1 = Knowledge-negating-belief
HEAD: *P viz. will; equal capacity for good/evil
ARM +1 = Belief-based-ignorance
LEG -2 DESTRUCTION
______________________________________________________
-P Tree of Living Forever
+P Tree of Suffering/Death
You are not taking into account time.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:19 pm
by nothing
You are not taking into account time.
It's intrinsically implied: time is a circle to which *P is invariably subject to.

The *variability thus allows for 360 degrees of arc (viz. orientation).

Re: God(s)

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:58 am
by Eodnhoj7
nothing wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:19 pm
You are not taking into account time.
It's intrinsically implied: time is a circle to which *P is invariably subject to.

The *variability thus allows for 360 degrees of arc (viz. orientation).
And P is as a variable is a loop as each replacement of P is a variation of P.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:57 pm
by nothing
And P is as a variable is a loop as each replacement of P is a variation of P.
This is a part of the solution, not any problem.

*P is a variable bi-directional loop (ie. pentagon) whose "variation"
can either approach suffering or liberation. Such represents
the apex becoming either knowledge-negating-belief and/or belief(-based ignorance).

Each new variation (ie. solar year) can be compared with the last
to clarify the orientation to/from liberation/suffering.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:10 am
by Eodnhoj7
nothing wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:57 pm
And P is as a variable is a loop as each replacement of P is a variation of P.
This is a part of the solution, not any problem.

Solutions are variations of the problem as the problem is a context of further contexts where the answer is a context(s) that exists as a variation of the problem.

For example the question: "Is the sky blue" is a set of contexts that results in specific other contexts (ie yes, no, positive, negative, color, space, etc.


*P is a variable bi-directional loop (ie. pentagon) whose "variation"
can either approach suffering or liberation. Such represents
the apex becoming either knowledge-negating-belief and/or belief(-based ignorance).

Each new variation (ie. solar year) can be compared with the last
to clarify the orientation to/from liberation/suffering.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:24 pm
by nothing
Solutions are variations of the problem as the problem is a context of further contexts where the answer is a context(s) that exists as a variation of the problem.
False solutions (!) are variations of any problem as the problem is (then) a context of further contexts where the true answer is a context(s) that exists as a solution to the problem (incl. any/all derived further contexts).

Solution is the acknowledgement / cessation of any genesis of any problem.
Any/all solutions fire-and-foremost require acknowledgement of any/all problems,
including of any/all belief-based ignorance(s).

Having no conscious knowledge of ones own ignorance is thus a problem-in-and-of-itself
as it would take "belief" to sustain problem-as-solution. See: belief-based religion esp. Islam.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:33 pm
by roydop
There is no conclusion to thought via thought.

The conclusion to thought is to not think.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:08 pm
by nothing
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:33 pm There is no conclusion to thought via thought.

The conclusion to thought is to not think.
The same is true with belief.
I think not, knowing I am willing not to think.
*ceases thinking*

Now try believe:
I believe not, knowing I am willing not to believe.
*ceases believing*

It takes a believer to believe evil is good.

Re: God(s)

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:29 pm
by roydop
nothing wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:08 pm
roydop wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:33 pm There is no conclusion to thought via thought.

The conclusion to thought is to not think.
The same is true with belief.
I think not, knowing I am willing not to think.
*ceases thinking*

Now try believe:
I believe not, knowing I am willing not to believe.
*ceases believing*

It takes a believer to believe evil is good.
Beliefs are thoughts, that is correct. What is to believe about one's own existence?

Why bring up evil and good?

Re: God(s)

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:42 pm
by Eodnhoj7
nothing wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:24 pm
Solutions are variations of the problem as the problem is a context of further contexts where the answer is a context(s) that exists as a variation of the problem.
False solutions (!) are variations of any problem as the problem is (then) a context of further contexts where the true answer is a context(s) that exists as a solution to the problem (incl. any/all derived further contexts).

Solution is the acknowledgement / cessation of any genesis of any problem.
Any/all solutions fire-and-foremost require acknowledgement of any/all problems,
including of any/all belief-based ignorance(s).

Having no conscious knowledge of ones own ignorance is thus a problem-in-and-of-itself
as it would take "belief" to sustain problem-as-solution. See: belief-based religion esp. Islam.
False, a solution to a problem is merely the problem existing in a new variation. A problem is a deficit by nature and grounded in some localized portion of reality being analyzed.

For example the problem of why A leads to the answer of B. B upon analysis becomes a new problem which leads to C. Etc.

The nature of the problem is strictly an analysis nothing more or less. Each answer, as a new context is simultaneously true and false in the respect it exists as a variation of the original question but is false as a context that exists in an of itself.

Considering "why A?" may lead to B or C, "why A" requires an expansion of context to determine which answer is true.

For example

What color is the sky? May lead to blue, white, black, gray, green, etc.

What color is the sky during a storm? May lead to different variations of the possible answers above.

Each question results in a set of contexts that shrink when the question expands in context. But the question always leads to a set of contexts which must be chosen.