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gaffo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:20 am

-1- wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:06 am
The better question is why people have the need to create us-and-them scenarios. I firmly believe this happens for basically one reason: for securing needed but scanty resources.

The us-and-them mentality has also encroached ideological differences, which have little or nothing to do with resource allocation, but it happens because for each strife, war, fight, an ideological carrier is needed to psychologically prepare the warriors for fight; ideology has become such integrally needed part of strife, that it took a life of its very own.

exactly!

pure wisdom sir!

you are wise for sure!

i bow to you.

...........lead me................;-/.

um no.............

but ya, you are wise.

gaffo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:45 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:29 pm

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pm
That's right. And no, "we," or, "us," either.

If there is no "us", then what is there (or here)?

YOU - of course.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:17 pm Age

What is the difference between 'you' and 'animal Man'?

I am animal Man. Through knowing it I have certain advantages . I am aware that I am dual natured and how much of me is reactive animal. At the same time I have moments of self awareness and flashes of consciousness giving me an indication of the conscious potential for humanity in the context of the reality of the fallen human condition.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:49 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:43 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:00 pm Trying to defeat an us verses them mentality is self contradictory since you have to set your store with the "us " that believes that an "Us vs Them Mentality", and against the people the 'them' that think a "Us vs Them Mentality" is a perfectly good way to go about things.

But the most morally developed individuals have passed through the tribal stage and arrived at the universal .

I'll take that as a compliment.
I do not think there are many such people.
There is no race but the human race and no culture but human culture.

For Example:
"The USA is still the greatest country in the world.
Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:40 am

All civilized people know this. That's why so many people try to get into this country. We don't have PMs that suck and many countries count on the US for support. That's why good ole Winnie begged the US for its support in WW2 when Neville Chamberlain literally helped to start WW2 by giving away Czechoslovakia to the Nazis. That was smart of England.

PhilX"

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:02 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:49 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:43 pm
But the most morally developed individuals have passed through the tribal stage and arrived at the universal .

I'll take that as a compliment.
I do not think there are many such people.
There is no race but the human race and no culture but human culture.

For Example:
"The USA is still the greatest country in the world.
Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:40 am

All civilized people know this. That's why so many people try to get into this country. We don't have PMs that suck and many countries count on the US for support. That's why good ole Winnie begged the US for its support in WW2 when Neville Chamberlain literally helped to start WW2 by giving away Czechoslovakia to the Nazis. That was smart of England.

PhilX"

Sorry, but I see little resemblance between the Irish and the English, or the English and Pakistanis, or even the English and the French. You might hanker after a beige, homogenous world where everyone is 'just human' (whatever THAT would look like--perhaps an American sit-com?) but I certainly don't. All you 'open-borderers' are doing is pandering to Big Business interests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agpRW53q5jg

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:02 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:02 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:49 pm

I'll take that as a compliment.
I do not think there are many such people.
There is no race but the human race and no culture but human culture.

For Example:
"The USA is still the greatest country in the world.
Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:40 am

All civilized people know this. That's why so many people try to get into this country. We don't have PMs that suck and many countries count on the US for support. That's why good ole Winnie begged the US for its support in WW2 when Neville Chamberlain literally helped to start WW2 by giving away Czechoslovakia to the Nazis. That was smart of England.

PhilX"

Sorry, but I see little resemblance between the Irish and the English, or the English and Pakistanis, or even the English and the French. You might hanker after a beige, homogenous world where everyone is 'just human' (whatever THAT would look like--perhaps an American sit-com?) but I certainly don't. All you 'open-borderers' are doing is pandering to Big Business interests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agpRW53q5jg

Interesting.
I did not know you were a fascist

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:04 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:02 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:02 am

Sorry, but I see little resemblance between the Irish and the English, or the English and Pakistanis, or even the English and the French. You might hanker after a beige, homogenous world where everyone is 'just human' (whatever THAT would look like--perhaps an American sit-com?) but I certainly don't. All you 'open-borderers' are doing is pandering to Big Business interests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agpRW53q5jg

Interesting.
I did not know you were a fascist

Intelligent counterargument, straight from the PCturd handbook of 'How to silence opposition'. Fortunately I couldn't give a flying fuck what the PC 'think'. I'm not an anything 'ist', I prefer reality.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:20 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:04 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:02 pm
Interesting.
I did not know you were a fascist

Intelligent counterargument, straight from the PCturd handbook of 'How to silence opposition'. Fortunately I couldn't give a flying fuck what the PC 'think'. I'm not an anything 'ist', I prefer reality.

Your view point is fascist. Live with it!

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:42 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:20 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:04 pm

Intelligent counterargument, straight from the PCturd handbook of 'How to silence opposition'. Fortunately I couldn't give a flying fuck what the PC 'think'. I'm not an anything 'ist', I prefer reality.

Your view point is fascist. Live with it!

As a matter of fact yours is. The problem with labels is that they lock people into a particular ideology rather than using logic and reason (reality) to think for themselves. It's a lazy cop-out.

-1- wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:14 am

gaffo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:20 am

-1- wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:06 am
The better question is why people have the need to create us-and-them scenarios. I firmly believe this happens for basically one reason: for securing needed but scanty resources.

The us-and-them mentality has also encroached ideological differences, which have little or nothing to do with resource allocation, but it happens because for each strife, war, fight, an ideological carrier is needed to psychologically prepare the warriors for fight; ideology has become such integrally needed part of strife, that it took a life of its very own.

exactly!

pure wisdom sir!

you are wise for sure!

i bow to you.

...........lead me................;-/.

um no.............

but ya, you are wise.

Thanks, Gaffo, I appreciate the kow-tow, but I don't deserve it, I am afraid.

I learned this pearl of wisdom from Karl Marx.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:27 pm

gaffo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:45 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:29 pm

If there is no "us", then what is there (or here)?

YOU - of course.

Are YOU one of 'us'?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:16 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:42 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:20 pm
Your view point is fascist. Live with it!

As a matter of fact yours is. The problem with labels is that they lock people into a particular ideology rather than using logic and reason (reality) to think for themselves. It's a lazy cop-out.

You've backed yourself inside your own set of lables!!
Keep the immigrants out!
Zeig Heil!

-1- wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:08 am Zeig Heil -- means "point at the Hurray"

Sieg Heil -- means "long live the victory" -- Nazi greeting

zu zeigen -- to point at

zi siegen -- becoming victorious

Heil -- "long live", "ooh, lalla", "Splendid", "Hurray!"

zeig -- imperative second person singular to show

sieg -- impertaive second person singular to win

Sieg -- noun, winning, being victorious, victory

0000000000000000

I could be mistaken insofar as "siegen" could mean not victory, but struggle, fight. Now I am no longer sure of this.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:35 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:16 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:42 pm

As a matter of fact yours is. The problem with labels is that they lock people into a particular ideology rather than using logic and reason (reality) to think for themselves. It's a lazy cop-out.

You've backed yourself inside your own set of lables!!
Keep the immigrants out!
Zeig Heil!

What a moron. Spare me your disingenuous white guilt. Has England run out of people to persecute and plunder? You do realise that your fuck-hole of a country takes almost none of the refugees it created in the ME, and the same goes for the US.
Zeig Heil to you and your genocidal country.